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Elizabeth Elizabeth

posted on January 6

I am looking for my family. My grandmothers maiden name was Lona Monks and I am looking for family. My grandmother and great grandmother both lived on the reservation at one time. My grandfather’s last name was Carter.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on January 6

there are no years or locations in your post. there are no spouse or children listed.

lona monks m. unknown male carter.

this is not enough information to find any one. there were over a million people living in oklahoma/indian territory in 1900. many people think that indian territory was a reservation. it was a location. natives who lived under the authority of the tribe and were members of the tribe were a small portion of the people living in oklahoma. only about 150,000 people applied for enrollment in one of the five major tribes of oklahoma.

indian territory was a location and became oklahoma state in 1907. before statehood, government services were given through forts in the territory.

land rushes and business opportunities were drawing people to indian territory.

is this your lona monks?
1920 United States Federal Census about Lona B Monks
Name: Lona B Monks
Age: 12
Birth Year: abt 1908
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Home in 1920: Kennady, Le Flore, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Henry C Monks
Father’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother’s Name: Minnie Monks
Mother’s Birthplace: Missouri
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry C Monks 50
Minnie Monks 39
William H Monks 26
Ray E Monks 14
Lona B Monks 12
Rachel M Monks 7
Ida B Monks 5
[5 5/12]
Polly Monks 0
[4/12]
Lula Monks 18
Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Kennady, Le Flore, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1468; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 109; Image: 411.
henry owned a farm with a mortgage.
1920 United States Federal Census about Henry C Monks
Name: Henry C Monks
[Henry C Mauhs]
Age: 50
Birth Year: abt 1870
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1920: Kennady, Le Flore, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Minnie Monks
Father’s Birthplace: Missouri
Mother’s Birthplace: Alabama
1920 United States Federal Census about Minnie Monks
Name: Minnie Monks
Age: 39
Birth Year: abt 1881
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1920: Kennady, Le Flore, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Henry C Monks
Father’s Birthplace: Missouri
Mother’s Birthplace: Arkansas

Arkansas Marriages, 1779-1992 about Henry C. Monks
Name: Henry C. Monks
Marriage Date: 2 Dec 1892
Spouse: Cora Cheeley
County: Sebastian
State: Arkansas

1910 United States Federal Census about Minnie B Monks
Name: Minnie B Monks
[Mennie B Monks]
Age in 1910: 28
Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1910: Bokoshe, Le Flore, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Henry C Monks
Father’s Birthplace: Kentucky
Mother’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry C Monks 40
Minnie B Monks 28
Willie H Monks 16
Bryant O Monks 14
Pearl E Monks 12
Roy E Monks 4
Lowa B Monks 2
Maudy R Havens 13
Mary E Havens 10
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Bokoshe, Le Flore, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1258; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 0146; FHL microfilm: 1375271.

U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about Bryant Clayton Monks
Name: Bryant Clayton Monks
Birth Date: 31 Aug 1894
Birth Place: Poteau, Oklahoma
Residence: Coco County, California
Race: White

apparently some other researchers are having difficulty finding the 1900 census record. this was when the native tribes were enrolling members.

i don’t know if someone attempted to enroll in a tribe. this is a rejected application.
Dawes Card Information
Tribe Last First Middle Age Sex Blood Card Roll Misc Type
Choctaw Hill Mrs James 26 F NR R195 R

Choctaw Jones Mrs John 28 F NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks Francis M 0 M NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks George W 18 M NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks Henry C 30 M NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks James I 23 M NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks John W 32 M NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks Lucinda 0 F NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks Nancy 20 F NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks William C 37 M NR R195 R

this looks like a possible application.
Dawes Card Information
Tribe Last First Middle Age Sex Blood Card Roll Misc Type
Choctaw Monks Bryant C 10 M NR M1141 NR SUTTER M

Choctaw Monks Cora M 0 F M1141 P

Choctaw Monks Henry C 0 M M1141 P

Choctaw Monks Minnie 0 F M1141 P

Choctaw Monks Pearl E 7 F NR M1141 NR SUTTER M

Choctaw Monks Roye W 1 M NR M1141 NR SUTTER M

Choctaw Monks William H 13 M NR M1141 NR SUTTER M

i do not know if these people were successful in getting membership in the tribe.
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes
it does not show the family as members of the choctaw tribe on the oklahoma historical society website.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information

rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and

marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application

on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth

certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such

as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and

work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times,

names of family members. the census records up to 1940 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed.

you will need to know who the family members were 1830-1930 or so, where they were located. a good way to do this is by census records.
the first time period to concentrate on is 1900-1930 because most tribes enrolled during this period.
federal census records can help you here. you can get access through your local public library – two databases: 1) heritage quest, 2) ancestry.com.

the dawes roll shows the applicants to the five major tribes 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma. if your family applied for this, there would be

a census card, dawes application, other supporting documents and testimony. these are located at NARA
http://www.archives.gov
try the fort worth, TX office.
there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the 5 major tribes list applicants on the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma.

requirements for enrollment for several oklahoma tribes:
http://thorpe.ou.edu/OILS/blood.html
What are tribal membership requirements?

Tribal enrollment criteria are set forth in tribal constitutions, articles of incorporation or ordinances. The criterion varies from tribe to tribe,

so uniform membership requirements do not exist.

Two common requirements for membership are lineal decendency from someone named on the tribe’s base roll or relationship to a tribal member who

descended from someone named on the base roll. (A “base roll” is the original list of members as designated in a tribal constitution or other

document specifying enrollment criteria.) Other conditions such as tribal blood quantum, tribal residency, or continued contact with the tribe are

common.

http://www.narf.org/nill/resources/enrollment.htm

enrollment is a two step process. first you have to get your CDIB card from the BIA to show your degree of blood/eligibility to enroll in a

particular tribe, and then you have to apply to the tribe for acceptance, if you meet their membership requirements.

Tribal Government personnel, usually an Enrollment Clerk, located at a regional or agency office processes applications for Certificates of Degree of

Indian Blood (CDIB) and Indian Preference in Employment, BIA Form 4432, to anyone who can provide documentation that he or she descends from an

American Indian tribe.
http://www.bia.gov/WhatWeDo/ServiceOverview/TribalGov/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_recognition_in_the_United_States
this article has many resources.
however i find the paragraph on “Recognition for individuals” to be somewhat insensitive.

i think someone should rewrite that paragraph.

What are the most typical requirements for membership?
Each tribe has a base roll which was established, usually, in the early 20th century, listing the members of the tribe
at that time. Your first challenge will be to prove direct lineal descent from someone listed on that base roll. Then
you must prove that you have the required level of blood quantum – the percentage of your genetic make-up that
is native by bloodline. Most tribes require a 1/4 blood quantum – that is, you must be at least one-fourth Native
American – but note that the Eastern Band of the Cherokees requires that you be only 1/16 or higher to join, and the Cherokee Nation has no minimum

quantum restriction, so long as you can prove descent. There may be other conditions for membership as well: requirements for tribal residency or

continued contact with the tribe are common.
http://freedomcenter.org/_media/pdf/genealogy/16.%20Native%20American%20-%20Tribal%20Membership.pdf

choctaw enrollment, forms, FAQs
http://www.choctawnation.com/services/departments/enrollment-cdib-and-tribal-membership/

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com. fold3.com is another useful database for native records and

military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times, their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet. you

can google fold3 and your ancestor’s name to see if your relative’s dawes packet is available at fold3.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/final-rolls.htm

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw-indian-research.htm
access genealogy’s collection of information
if you are from another tribe, use the links at the right.
if you are from an associated tribe, see the several possible links on the webpage.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document

is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices,

such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on rootsweb.com or ancestry.com.
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is

helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try findagrave.com or interment.net. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the

county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a

delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of

age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890

census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. ancestry.com and heritage

quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA (http://www.archives.gov) are transcribed at

accessgenealogy.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify,

2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had

accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment. some mississippi choctaw were accepted by adoption or lawsuit.

for those people who do not yet have a card, you should research the 1900-1940 census to know approximate dates of birth, birthplaces, family

members. this will also tell you if someone is more likely to be on the freedman roll or as applicants to the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian

territory/oklahoma for the five major tribes.

applicants on the dawes roll can be found here:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial names are ok. look at the guide link for explanation of the codes.

when you find a possible name, then click on the card# in the card column to see the family group. if it is your family group, and they were likely

enrolled, then you can search the oklahoma historical society’s dawes roll link to get the enrollment #’s for particular family members.
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

if your family was enrolled by council action early in the process or was enrolled by lawsuit, they might not appear on the oklahoma historical

society website. you would have to check with the tribe on that.

even if your family was rejected by the dawes process, you may want the testimony, census card, application information for your genealogical

purposes.

the federal census will also help you decide which state to contact for vital records.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that

time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

freedmen information:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ewyatt/_borders/
http://digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/F/FR016.html
http://www.african-nativeamerican.com/8-chocfreed.htm
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Five_civilized_tribes_in_Oklahoma.html?id=chATAAAAYAAJ
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.
http://www.archives.gov/southwest/finding-aids/native-american-microfilm.html

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA http://www.archives.gov for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23 RECORDS OF THE COMMISSIONER TO THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES 1852-1919
75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/075.html
(Record Group 75)
1793-1989

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.
you can try school records in the oklahoma state archives, the oklahoma historical society and NARA.
http://www.odl.state.ok.us/oar/
http://www.okhistory.org/
these two resources might have historical newspapers and local history books. your public library/interlibrary loan program might also have access

to newspapers and local history books.

http://www.archives.gov

as for stories, you can see if any of the relatives are mentioned in the oklahoma pioneer papers or oklahoma chronicles.

http://digital.libraries.ou.edu/whc/pioneer/
volumes are alphabetical by surname.
if an interview is not online, contact the host of these interviews.

http://www.okhistory.org/publications/chronicles

as for location for your family, you should look on the federal census 1900-1940 for your family and this will give you locations, family members.

your local public library probably has a subscription to ancestry.com and heritage quest.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
some obituaries:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/obituaries/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office

has archives for the southeast tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from

nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who

actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions

granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census

card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

about blood quantum laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_quantum_laws
calculations about blood quantum:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wishawa4/Menominee%20Indians/quantum.htm

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
marriage records
http://www.okhistory.org/research/library/marriage.html
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chocmarriageindex.htm

other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html
http://yvwiiusdinvnohii.net/OKTribes.htm

tribes in other locations:
http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/tribal/list-of-federal-and-state-recognized-tribes.aspx

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary

loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you

want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.
you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more

about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi

choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period

(census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of

tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land

records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has

those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw were not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you

might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/ppcs/ppcs.html
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad

to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Kristina Bailey (Monks) Kristina Bailey (Monks)

posted on January 13

Lona Monks is the daughter of Henry Monks & Minnie Selby. She was born around 1908. Henry Monks is the son of my 4th great grandparents, Francis Marion Monks and Lucinda (Smith) Monks. Henry’s brother, John Wesley Harden Monks is my 3rd great-grandpa. I believe they are buried in the Monks Family Cemetery in Oklahoma. Francis is on the final rolls as an intermarried Choctaw. I have attached what I found. Hope this helps!! I’m sure I have much more info if you need it!!

attached:

Kristina Bailey (Monks) Kristina Bailey (Monks)

posted on January 13

This is a pic of our grandma Lucinda Monks!!! All her info has her listed as “white” but clearly she is not!!!

attached:

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on January 13

the picture links do not work. the choctaw tribe will have to fix that. i am a volunteer and cannot.

lots of people consider natives are caucasians, so this is not unusual.

intermarried white is a general nontribal description and means that they did not meet the membership requirements for the tribe. this type of description does not entitle any descendant to be a tribal member.

you should look at the dawes applications for genealogical information. try fold3.com, an online subscription website. one month’s subscription is less than the price of a dawes packet from NARA or oklahoma historical society.

Kristina Bailey (Monks) Kristina Bailey (Monks)

posted on January 27

What should I do if there is no Dawes packet available for my grandmother Lucinda?

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on January 27

please read about the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma. the names of applicants to the five major tribes are on the roll. some people were rejected for tribal membership because they didn’t meet the requirements of membership in the tribe. look at the codes on the dawes roll.

Dawes Card Information
Tribe Last First Middle Age Sex Blood Card Roll Misc Type
Choctaw Hill Mrs James 26 F NR R195 R

Choctaw Jones Mrs John 28 F NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks Francis M 0 M NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks George W 18 M NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks Henry C 30 M NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks James I 23 M NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks John W 32 M NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks Lucinda 0 F NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks Nancy 20 F NR R195 R

Choctaw Monks William C 37 M NR R195 R

r-rejected
p=parent
it appears that henry, james and john applied for enrollment. information about lucinda is likely to be in the dawes packet of this family group.

findagrave.com memorial page for lucinda monks
Birth: May 25, 1842
Monroe County
Tennessee, USA
Death: Jun. 9, 1915
Le Flore County
Oklahoma, USA

Wife of F. M. Monks

Family links:
Spouse:
Francis Marion Monks (1838 – 1909)*

Children: John Wesley Monks (1867 – 1950)* Henry Clay Monks (1869 – 1943)* James Monks (1876 – 1925)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial:
Monks Cemetery
Calhoun
Le Flore County
Oklahoma, USA

Created by: Ladybug
Record added: May 23, 2011
Find A Grave Memorial# 70290837

francis marion monks memorial
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=70290908

the choctaw (and other tribes) were in MS and AL. few choctaw lived in TN, but other natives may have.

the trail of tears occurred in the late 1830s from MS and AL to indian territory/OK.

if natives lived on the reservation, they would be on native census records and databases and rolls. if natives lived off-reervation, they are on federal census records taken every 10 years.

natives that lived off-reservation were not generating native census records because those records were generated by the war department from natives who took rations while they lived on the reservation.

many natives lived off-reservation because they didn’t want to live under tribal authority. this was their choice. but this caused difficulty when tribes were trying to enroll members because they had trouble acquiring evidence of their tribal affilation.

i’m sorry that this is likely not the answer you wanted.

you might find evidence of tribal affiliation in:
state archives
state historical societies
local history books, local vital records, local historical newspapers
land records saying it is choctaw scrip
court records – both civil and criminal

your local public library/interlibrary loan program might be able to find some of these resources for you.

tribal heritage and tribal enrollment are two different topics.

rayson allen rayson allen

posted on January 28

DAWES PACKET R-195 CHOCTAW

There are 176 pages of legal papers filed by attorneys in an attempt to get Lucinda Monks and her 8 children enrolled as Choctaw citizens by way of her husband, Frances Monks, who at one time was made an intermarried citizen because he married a Choctaw Indian woman. Here are the particulars:
Francis M. Monks married a Choctaw Indian woman named Susan McClane on February 20, 1858. She died in 1860 at start of War between the States. On January 20, 1861 Francis married Lucinda Smith in Scullyville County, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory. They had 8 children to date.
In 1897 Lucinda applied to the Dawes Commission to have her children enrolled so as to get their land allotments as Choctaw citizens. After a lengthy legal battle, the
Monks family was denied enrollment, hence the “R” category for “rejected” applicants.

Kristina Bailey (Monks) Kristina Bailey (Monks)

posted on January 28

The story I have heard regarding Lucinda is that she is Cherokee but demied her heritage as to not interfere with her husband Francis Marion Monks and his enrollment as a Choctaw by intermarriage. We have photos of her and she appears to be native. I am unable to locate any info about her parents. Would it make sense to contact the Cherokee nation to see if they have records for her? Lucinda Smith seems to be a very common name back then and that makes it harder.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on January 28

the cherokee were also on the dawes roll.

i don’t know about the requirements for the cherokee tribe for the original enrollees. there had to be some evidence submitted.

there are several households where the spouse is enrolled in a different tribe than their partner. this would not have been a barrier.

any application would have been under the name of lucinda monks, as this was the name she was using at the time of the dawes roll 1896-1906. she would not have been under her maiden name.

you can contact the cherokee but if she didn’t apply, there would probably be no information.

i think you need to recognize that the tribes have no earlier records. the tribes had an oral tradition and their language wasn’t written until the second half of the 1800s. any records would be kept by the war department and are at NARA but those records are generally from reservations, where natives accepted rations.

rather, try to find where she was born and the dates, other family members. then ask the TN historical society and TN archives if they have any information. location is very important because natives had to be living under the authority of the tribe.

http://500nations.com/Tennessee_Tribes.asp
http://www.native-languages.org/tennessee.htm

this might yield something, i don’t know.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Philip Jones Philip Jones

posted on February 6

It is rumored that Lucinda Smith Monks was Cherokee. However she is not on the Dawes Roll. She is my 2nd great grandmother. I know that part of my Smith family found a name of her brother on a Cherokee census roll and that family attempted to enroll in the Western Cherokee Nation of Arkansas and Missouri. That tribe is not recognized by the federal government and will never be. That tribe wants you to pay yearly dues to keep your name on the books.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on February 7

i don’t think there is anything that the choctaw tribe of oklahoma can do about this situation. a decision was made long ago about the family’s application and whether they qualified for membership in the tribe.

i am sorry that this happened to your family. you may have a stronger claim to native heritage through lucinda smith monks, rather than francis marion smith’s intermarried white designation.

you will have to make a personal decision about your family and possible membership in an arkansas tribe. each tribe is considered a sovereign nation and membership criteria should be important to you.

http://500nations.com/tribes/Tribes_Petitions.asp
there are addresses and telephone #s on this page.

Kristina Bailey (Monks) Kristina Bailey (Monks)

posted on February 13

Hi Phillip,
Do you have the name of her brother or her parents? I am having such a hard time getting any info beyond her. I have everything up till this point!!! Sounds like we are related!

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on February 13 and updated on February 13

the case of francis monks and his children is quite extensive.

you can try to find information about the family in the dawes packet.

http://userdb.rootsweb.ancestry.com/nativeamerican/
get family group/card#, members of the family:

more info gives you the family group on the card#
partial surnames ok. just enter the surname.

once you have the card#, search here for documents:
http://www.ancestrypaths.com/five-civilized-tribes/
arranged by card#.
use the slider bar at the bottom to approximate your card#. the packets are arranged in order of card#. usually the beginning document references the card#.

there may be more than one card# for a particular person, depending on whether they were a parent at the time of enrollment.

sometimes a family’s consideration also depends on an earlier decision in their family. so you may have more than one card# to look up.

you might try M1140 (and M1141), minor choctaw. i can’t see parents or siblings of her in this case.
card#
MONKS, Lucinda Choctaw enrollment D203 More Info
MONKS, Lucinda Choctaw enrollment 5833 More Info
MONKS, Lucinda Choctaw enrollment R195 More Info

i just read through john monks’ case, card#5833, and i see no reference to lucinda’s family.

her name was lucinda ann smith.

from a family tree on ancestry.com, her family was:
Family Members
Parents
Jesse Smith
1814 – 1894

Allen Smith
1817 – 1910

Hide siblings
Daniel Theophilus Smith
1834 –

Samuel Smith
1834 –

John H Smith
1836 –

Mac Henry Smith
1837 –

Mack Henry Smith
1837 – 1908

Eliza Smith
1839 –

Eliza Smith
1839 –

John Wesley Smith
1845 – 1920

Nancy Smith
1848 –

Martin B Smith
1853 –

Isaac H Smith
1856 – 1897

Issac H SMITH
1856 –

Leonard Smith
1858 –

James H Smith
1859 –

Jas. H. Smith
1859 –

this is a self-entered family tree. i can see that they entered some siblings more than once.

Lucinda Ann Smith
Birth 1842-05-25 in Monroe, Tennessee, USA
Death 1915-06-09 in Calhoun,Le Flore,Oklahoma,USA

although this search might be time consuming, use the age at the time of application to help you eliminate some people.
it is likely that her siblings might be parents of people applying, so they would be coded P