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Ray Henson Ray Henson

posted on October 31, 2010

My granddaughter is Elaina Davis and her gggrandfather on the Davis side is Joseph Davis, born about 1905 in Alabama. I am trying to document either Creek or Choctaw or Cherokee descent for her, rumors of which persist in that side of her family. Thanks for any help you can give.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on October 31, 2010

if joseph davis was b.~1905 AL, they you might look into the MOWA tribe. there were other reservations around that location also, and geographic location is very suggestive about native affiliation.

this is a common name. no spouse, no children, no specific location, and only the birthdate in your post. if you are stuck on trying to find joseph davis’ parents, you might look for a delayed birth certificate or social security application. social security came into effect 1/1/1937 and many filed delayed birth certificates to show proof of age. another possibility is newspapers. see your local public library, as they can get newspapers through the interlibrary loan program.

you should have a copy of his death certificate, as wekkm as that sometimes has clues. we start from the dates closest to us, gather documentation, and then go backward in time. this works with generations as well. childrens’ documentation points to the parents and fixes the family to a particular date and location. if he passed away after 1963, he might be listed on the social security death index 1964-present.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/

messageboards, such as genealogy.com and rootsweb, have surname, tribe, location messageboard that might help you find information from others that look at that location or look for that surname.

as it is, looking at the census records 1910, i can see over 30 possibilities. since there is no more information in your post, i cannot decide between then.

you might search for his name on worldconnect records on roostweb as well. perhaps someone else has been trying to trace his family.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on November 1, 2010

if joseph davis was b.~1905 AL, they you might look into the MOWA tribe. there were other reservations around that location also, and geographic location is very suggestive about native affiliation.

this is a common name. no spouse, no children, no specific location, and only the birthdate in your post. if you are stuck on trying to find joseph davis’ parents, you might look for a delayed birth certificate or social security application. social security came into effect 1/1/1937 and many filed delayed birth certificates to show proof of age. another possibility is newspapers. see your local public library, as they can get newspapers through the interlibrary loan program.

you should have a copy of his death certificate, as wekkm as that sometimes has clues. we start from the dates closest to us, gather documentation, and then go backward in time. this works with generations as well. childrens’ documentation points to the parents and fixes the family to a particular date and location. if he passed away after 1963, he might be listed on the social security death index 1964-present.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/

messageboards, such as genealogy.com and rootsweb, have surname, tribe, location messageboard that might help you find information from others that look at that location or look for that surname.

as it is, looking at the census records 1910, i can see over 30 possibilities. since there is no more information in your post, i cannot decide between then.

you might search for his name on worldconnect records on roostweb as well. perhaps someone else has been trying to trace his family.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Ray Henson Ray Henson

posted on November 7, 2010

Hi,
Thank you for all your fine efforts. I am sorry I did not provide enough information. Here is more:

Ernest Nathaniel Davis- born 12 Dec 1934 in AL was my granddaughter Elaina’s ggrandfather. He was married to Joyce Adair Eubanks, born 1939 in Escambia County, FL.

Ernest’s father was Joseph Benjamin Davis, born 1905 in AL and married to Iwilda (Ryder?)

Joseph’s father was William Everett Davis, born 5 May 1859 in Lasca?, AL and married to Alice Virginia Barnes, born 21 Jul 1864 in Sweetwater, AL. He died on 13 Aug, 1927.

William’s father was Joseph D Davis, born 1830 in Coffee, AL, and married to Marinda Beck, born 27 Jul 1836, in Coffee, AL.
They both died in Davisville, FL, he in 1908, she in 1912.

Once again thank you for anything you can do.

Blessings,

Ray Henson