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Ty Gower Ty Gower

posted on September 27, 2013

If this has been posted already, my apologies.
I am looking for my information on the family tree of William Henry Harrison. 1840? – ???
Married Louisa (Louise, Louiza) Huntress.
Had a daughter named Mollie Marie(Maria)Lee Spain who married Anderson(Ance)Thomas

Can someone help me please? I am at a road block. Thank you for your help!

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on September 27, 2013

how did mollie maria lee spain get the spain surname?
where were people born? when? where did people die? when?
who were mollie maria spain’s children? where were they born and when?

one of the ancestry family trees gives this information:

Anderson Ance Thomas
Birth 18 Apr 1853 in Pulaski, Missouri, United States
Death 6 Oct 1933 in Linday, Garvin, Oklahoma, United States

i imagine these are all one spouse’s children, but i don’t know:

Mollie Marie Lee Spain 1873 – 1951 Leoma Madrilda Thomas 1914 – 1991 Mollie Marie Lee Spain 1872 – 1951 No Spouse George Thomas 1906 – Mabell M Thomas 1910 –

on another family tree, there’s this:

Family Members
Parents

Joseph Anderson Thomas 1824 – 1890 Mary Driscol 1832 – 1876 Mollie Marie Spain 1873 – 1951 Ethel Thomas 1897 – 1984

another family tree says this about mollie maria spain.

Family Members
Parents

William Henry Spain 1840 – 1900 Hulda Louisa Huntress 1844 – 1926

Marriage to Anderson Thomas
1890 19 Oct Age: 16

this is another post on the choctaw forum that might help you get information:
http://www.choctawnation.com/forum/forums/1/topics/1519

1900 United States Federal Census about Anderson A Thomas
Name: Anderson A Thomas
Age: 43
Birth Date: abt 1857
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1900: Township 5, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory
Race: Indian (Native American)
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse’s Name: Mollie M Thomas
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Anderson A Thomas 43
Mollie M Thomas 26
Mary L Thomas 8
Minnie A Thomas 6
William D Thomas 5
Ethel Thomas 2
John A Thomas 1
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 5, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: 1850; Enumeration District: 0172; FHL microfilm: 1241850.

1880 United States Federal Census about Anderson Thomas
Name: Anderson Thomas
Age: 25
Birth Year: abt 1855
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1880: Precinct 3, Tarrant, Texas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Joseph Thomas
Father’s Birthplace: Virginia
Mother’s Birthplace: Virginia
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Farmer
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

View Image
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Thomas 79
William B. Thomas 28
Anderson Thomas 25
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Precinct 3, Tarrant, Texas; Roll: 1328; Family History Film: 1255328; Page: 151A; Enumeration District: 095.

anderson thomas on findagrave.com
Birth: Apr. 18, 1855
Missouri, USA
Death: Oct. 6, 1932
Lindsay
Garvin County
Oklahoma, USA

Family links:
Spouse:
Mollie Marie Lee Spain Thomas (1873 – 1951)

Children: John A. Thomas (1899 – 1919)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial:
Centrahoma Cemetery
Centrahoma
Coal County
Oklahoma, USA

Mollie Marie Lee Spain Thomas
Birth: Dec. 26, 1873
Kansas, USA
Death: May 27, 1951
Oklahoma City
Oklahoma County
Oklahoma, USA

Family links:
Spouse:
Anderson Thomas (1855 – 1932)*

Children: John A. Thomas (1899 – 1919)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial:
Centrahoma Cemetery
Centrahoma
Coal County
Oklahoma, USA

picture of the headstones on there.

you will probably find more information about them both in the dawes packet. see the link to the previous post on choctaw nation.

the spain family may be in native census records. click on the accessgenealogy.com link and look at the menu on the left, native census records, native databases and rolls. natives that lived on-reservation were on native census records and were not found on the federal census records in the 1800s.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1940 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed.

you will need to know who the family members were 1830-1930 or so, where they were located. a good way to do this is by census records.
the first time period to concentrate on is 1900-1930 because most tribes enrolled during this period.
federal census records can help you here. you can get access through your local public library – two databases: 1) heritage quest, 2) ancestry.com.

the dawes roll shows the applicants to the five major tribes 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma. if your family applied for this, there would be a census card, dawes application, other supporting documents and testimony. these are located at NARA
http://www.archives.gov
try the fort worth, TX office.
there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the 5 major tribes list applicants on the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma.

requirements for enrollment for several oklahoma tribes:
http://thorpe.ou.edu/OILS/blood.html
What are tribal membership requirements?

Tribal enrollment criteria are set forth in tribal constitutions, articles of incorporation or ordinances. The criterion varies from tribe to tribe, so uniform membership requirements do not exist.

Two common requirements for membership are lineal decendency from someone named on the tribe’s base roll or relationship to a tribal member who descended from someone named on the base roll. (A “base roll” is the original list of members as designated in a tribal constitution or other document specifying enrollment criteria.) Other conditions such as tribal blood quantum, tribal residency, or continued contact with the tribe are common.

http://www.narf.org/nill/resources/enrollment.htm

enrollment is a two step process. first you have to get your CDIB card from the BIA to show your degree of blood/eligibility to enroll in a particular tribe, and then you have to apply to the tribe for acceptance, if you meet their membership requirements.

Tribal Government personnel, usually an Enrollment Clerk, located at a regional or agency office processes applications for Certificates of Degree of Indian Blood (CDIB) and Indian Preference in Employment, BIA Form 4432, to anyone who can provide documentation that he or she descends from an American Indian tribe.
http://www.bia.gov/WhatWeDo/ServiceOverview/TribalGov/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_recognition_in_the_United_States
this article has many resources.
however i find the paragraph on “Recognition for individuals” to be somewhat insensitive.

i think someone should rewrite that paragraph.

What are the most typical requirements for membership?
Each tribe has a base roll which was established, usually, in the early 20th century, listing the members of the tribe
at that time. Your first challenge will be to prove direct lineal descent from someone listed on that base roll. Then
you must prove that you have the required level of blood quantum – the percentage of your genetic make-up that
is native by bloodline. Most tribes require a 1/4 blood quantum – that is, you must be at least one-fourth Native
American – but note that the Eastern Band of the Cherokees requires that you be only 1/16 or higher to join, and the Cherokee Nation has no minimum quantum restriction, so long as you can prove descent. There may be other conditions for membership as well: requirements for tribal residency or continued contact with the tribe are common.
http://freedomcenter.org/_media/pdf/genealogy/16.%20Native%20American%20-%20Tribal%20Membership.pdf

choctaw enrollment, forms, FAQs
http://www.choctawnation.com/services/departments/enrollment-cdib-and-tribal-membership/

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com. fold3.com is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times, their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet. you can google fold3 and your ancestor’s name to see if your relative’s dawes packet is available at fold3.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on rootsweb.com or ancestry.com.
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try findagrave.com or interment.net. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. ancestry.com and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA (http://www.archives.gov) are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
several helpful links for records in the choctaw territory

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment. some mississippi choctaw were accepted by adoption or lawsuit.

for those people who do not yet have a card, you should research the 1900-1940 census to know approximate dates of birth, birthplaces, family members. this will also tell you if someone is more likely to be on the freedman roll or as applicants to the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma for the five major tribes.

applicants on the dawes roll can be found here:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial names are ok. look at the guide link for explanation of the codes.

when you find a possible name, then click on the card# in the card column to see the family group. if it is your family group, and they were likely enrolled, then you can search the oklahoma historical society’s dawes roll link to get the enrollment #’s for particular family members.
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

if your family was enrolled by council action early in the process or was enrolled by lawsuit, they might not appear on the oklahoma historical society website. you would have to check with the tribe on that.

even if your family was rejected by the dawes process, you may want the testimony, census card, application information for your genealogical purposes.

the federal census will also help you decide which state to contact for vital records.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

freedmen information:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ewyatt/_borders/
http://digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/F/FR016.html
http://www.african-nativeamerican.com/8-chocfreed.htm
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Five_civilized_tribes_in_Oklahoma.html?id=chATAAAAYAAJ
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.
http://www.archives.gov/southwest/finding-aids/native-american-microfilm.html

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA http://www.archives.gov for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23 RECORDS OF THE COMMISSIONER TO THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES 1852-1919
75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/075.html
(Record Group 75)
1793-1989

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.
you can try school records in the oklahoma state archives, the oklahoma historical society and NARA.
http://www.odl.state.ok.us/oar/
http://www.okhistory.org/
these two resources might have historical newspapers and local history books. your public library/interlibrary loan program might also have access to newspapers and local history books.

http://www.archives.gov

as for stories, you can see if any of the relatives are mentioned in the oklahoma pioneer papers or oklahoma chronicles.

http://digital.libraries.ou.edu/whc/pioneer/
volumes are alphabetical by surname.
if an interview is not online, contact the host of these interviews.

http://www.okhistory.org/publications/chronicles

as for location for your family, you should look on the federal census 1900-1940 for your family and this will give you locations, family members. your local public library probably has a subscription to ancestry.com and heritage quest.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
some obituaries:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/obituaries/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southeast tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

about blood quantum laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_quantum_laws
calculations about blood quantum:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wishawa4/Menominee%20Indians/quantum.htm

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
marriage records
http://www.okhistory.org/research/library/marriage.html
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chocmarriageindex.htm

other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html
http://yvwiiusdinvnohii.net/OKTribes.htm

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.
you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/ppcs/ppcs.html
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

rayson allen rayson allen

posted on September 28, 2013 and updated on September 28, 2013

ancestry.com, Linker Family Tree =
Hulda Louisa Huntress born 11-20-1845 Fort Jesup, Sabine, Louisiana died in 1926 oklahoma
Father: John Huntress 1814-1848
Mother: Hannah Wright 1815-1889
Spouse: William Henry Harrison Spain, born
11-18-1840 Mississippi died in 1897, Texas
KIDS: Willie Spain 1866-1883
Hulda A. Spain 1870-1920
Mollie Marie Lee Spain 1873-1951
Granger Phylander Spain 1875- 1956
Hannah Jones Spain 1880-1920
1850 Census, living in San Antonio, Bexar, TX
1900 Census, living in Town 7, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory

William Henry Harrison Spain, born 11-18-1840
Mississippi died 1897, Guadalupe County, TX
Father: Thomas David Spain 1815-1897
Mother: Mary Melinda Hancock 1824-1877
Spouse: Hulda Louisa Huntress 1845-1926 (married 5-2-1865 Wilson County, TX)
Other Spouse: Erah D. Adams (married 9-13-1863 Wilson County, TX)

1850 Census, living in Guadalupe County, TX
1860 Census, living in Seguin, Guadalupe, TX
1866, April living District 3, Guadalupe, TX
1870 Census living Precinct 3, Guadalupe, TX

APRIL 1866, U S TAX ASSESSMENTS LIST, 1862-1918: District 3, Guadalupe County, Texas, Tax Year Dec. 1865- Dec. 1866
Excise Tax for W.H.H. Spain, Occupation= peddler, second class

(E-BOOK) LAWS OF THE CHOCTAW NATION, PASSED AT THE CHOCTAW COUNCILS OF 1876-1877,pages 69, 70 =
BILL # 39, October 31, 1877
An Act entitled " To Confer Citizenship Upon Mary M. Spain and Others." -
“Be it enacted by the General Council of the Choctaw Nation, assembled : That Mary M. Spain, being a regular lineal descendant of a Choctaw family, she and her husband Thomas D. Spain, and their children W. H. H. Spain and his wife H. L. Spain, and Phidolia (Spain) Hibdon and her husband H. C. Hibdon, and J, B. Spain, Thomas G. Spain, David McKnight Spain and S. B. Spain, are all entitled to all the rights, privileges, immunities and
franchises of Choctaw citizenship.
Be it further enacted, that the citizenship in the Choctaw Nation, of the aforesaid parties, is hereby fully established and conferred, and publicly declared to the Choctaw people, and that this Act take effect and be in force from and after its passage.”
Proposed by Thomas Loud, Chairman, Committee on Petitions / Passed the House Nov. 12, 1875 / Passed the Senate Oct, 30, 1877 / signed J. White, Speaker of the House / signed Charles Winston, President of the Senate / signed Coleman Cole, Principal Chief of Nation

DAWES ENROLLMENT CARD, CHOCTAW BY BLOOD # 309
CUMBERLAND, CHICKASAW NATION, INDIAN TERRITORY

March 13, 1903 –
Roll # 650 Spain, George, 26, 1/32 blood, Atoka County Father: W H H Spain, dead Mother: Lou Spain, non citizen
(wife) Roll I. W. 555 Spain, Lula M. 26, Identified White, Atoka County Father: C. Shelton, non citizen Mother: Mary Shelton, non citizen
Roll # 651 Spain, Annie M. 6yrs old 1/64 blood Atoka County
Roll # 652 Spain, Agnes 4 yrs old 1/64 blood Atoka County
Notes on document: “Grainger Spain is descendant of Mary M. Spain, who was admitted by Act of Choctaw Council of Oct. 31, 1877”
Approved by Secretary of the Interior 2-8-1904

INFORMATION TAKEN FROM OTHER DAWES ROLL APPLICATIONS OF SPAIN FAMILY :
Grainger Spain and Lula Shelton married 12-7-1893 Boggy Depot, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory.
Mary M. Hancock married Thomas D. Spain, their children were:
William H. H. Spain – Choctaw by Blood Card # 3973
David M. Spain- Choctaw by Blood Card # 144
Thomas G. Spain- Choctaw by Blood Card # 119 and # 4747
Beauregard S. Spain- Choctaw by Blood Card # 162
Fedy Spain- Choctaw by blood Card # 90, who married Minar Leewright
Hulda Spain- Choctaw by Blood Card # 3529, who married Richard McKinney
Lillie Spain- Choctaw by Blood Card # 4829, who married Beverly C. Munkus
Hannah Spain- Choctaw by Blood Card # 71, who married George England
Mollie M. Spain- Choctaw by Blood Card # 3972, who married Anderson Thomas

These Dawes Enrollment Cards can be found at fold3.com, a pay website, or at the National Archives in Fort Worth, Texas. There are pages of testimonies and documents in these Dawes Packets.

rayson allen rayson allen

posted on September 28, 2013

1850 United States Federal Census about William Spain
Name: William Spain
Age: 9
Birth Year: abt 1841
Birthplace: Mississippi
Home in 1850: Guadalupe, Texas
Gender: Male
Family Number: 145
146
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Spain 26
William Spain 9
Philander Spain 5
Phidelia Spain 0

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posted on September 28, 2013

1860 United States Federal Census about Wm H Spain
Name: Wm H Spain
Age in 1860: 19
Birth Year: abt 1841
Birthplace: Mississippi
Home in 1860: Seguin, Guadalupe, Texas
Gender: Male
Post Office: Seguin
Value of real estate: View Image
Household Members:
Name Age
Tho D Spain 45
Mary M Spain 36
Wm H Spain 19
L Philander Spain 15
Fidelia Spain 10
Tho G Spain 7
Jubal Spain 5
David McK Spain 2
F. Shelton 26

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posted on September 28, 2013

1870 United States Federal Census about William Sparre (William Spain)
Name: William Sparre
Age in 1870: 28
Birth Year: abt 1842
Birthplace: Texas (Mississippi)
Home in 1870: Precinct 3, Guadalupe, Texas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Seguin
Value of real estate: View Image
Household Members:
Name Age
T D Sparre 56
Mary Sparre 50
Thomas Sparre 17
J B Sparre 14
J D Sparre 11
S B Sparre 8
William Sparre 28
Louisa Sparre 25 (wife)

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posted on September 28, 2013

Texas, Marriage Collection, 1814-1909 and 1966-2011 about W. H. H. Spain
Name: W. H. H. Spain
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 2 May 1865
Marriage Place: Wilson, Texas, USA
Spouse: Lieu Huntress
Spouse Gender: Female
Source: Texas Marriages, 1851-1900

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posted on September 28, 2013

1850 United States Federal Census about Mary Spain
Name: Mary Spain
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1824
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1850: Guadalupe, Texas
Gender: Female
Family Number: 145
146
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Spain 26
William Spain 9
Philander Spain 5
Phidelia Spain 0

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posted on September 28, 2013

1900 United States Federal Census about Louisa H Spain
Name: Louisa H Spain
Age: 54
Birth Date: abt 1846
Birthplace: Louisiana
Home in 1900: Township 7, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Mother-in-law
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard T Mckinney 53
Huldah A Mckinney 29
George W Mckinney 13
Frank E Mckinney 10
Elijah A Mckinney 6
Lilly E Mckinney 4
Edward L Mckinney 2
Maggie E Mckinney 4/12
Louisa H Spain 54

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posted on September 28, 2013

i forgot to post the link of another inquiry about this family.
http://www.choctawnation.com/forum/forums/1/topics/1519

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posted on September 29, 2013

DAWES PACKET CHOCTAW BY BLOOD # 3973
“It appears from the records in this case that Louisa Spain, nee Huntress, appeared before the Commission and made personal application for enrollment as a citizen by intermarriage of the Choctaw Nation.
It further appears from the records of the Commission that on Sept. 9, 1896, in the case entitled ‘Lucy Spain vs Choctaw Nation’ 1896 Choctaw Citizenship Docket Case # 798, the applicant herein made original application to this Commission under the provisions of the Act of Congress approved June 10, 1896 ( 29 stats, 321) for admission to citizenship in the Choctaw Nation by virtue of her marriage to William Spain, a recognized and enrolled citizen by blood of said Nation, and on Dec. 3, 1896, the said Louisa Spain was by this Commission admitted to citizenship in the Choctaw Nation as a citizen by intermarriage, from which decision of the Commission no appeal was taken.
It further appears from the evidence in this case that the applicant herein was a resident in good faith of Indian Territory on June 28, 1898, and that her status as an intermarried citizen has remained unchanged from the date of her said admission in 1896 up to and including Sept. 25, 1902.
It is, therefore, the opinion of this Commission that Louisa Spain should be enrolled as a citizen by intermarriage of the Choctaw Nation in accordance with the provisions of the Acts of Congress approved June 28, 1898 (30 stats, 495) and July 1, 1902 (32 stats, 641) and it is so ordered. Signed Tams Bixby, Chairman,
Commission to the Five Civilized Tribes, Muskogee, Indian Territory, July 23, 1903”

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posted on September 29, 2013

MARRIAGE LICENSE WILLIAM H. H. SPAIN :

The State of Texas
County of Wilson Docket #30

To any ordained Minister of the Gospel, Judge of the District Court, Judge of the County Court, or Justice of the Peace- You, or either of you, are hereby authorized to solemnize or join in the Holy Union of Matrimony, W. H. H. Spain and Lieu Huntress in accordance with the law of this State, and that you make due return of this, your authority, to my office, in sixty days from date hereof, certifying how you have executed the same.

Given under my hand and seal of this County, this 2nd day of May, 1865. Signed A. G. Pickett, Clerk, County Court Wilson County

The foregoing License executed by me, joining the within named parties in the Holy Union of Matrimony, this 2nd day of May, 1865 signed John Sutherland , co-signed J. P. Wilson

Returned the 8th day of May, 1865. A true copy of the original recorded this the 8th day of May, 1865. signed A. G. Pickett, Clerk, C. C. W. C.

Found on Marriage Record Book “A”, page 15, Wilson County, Texas. Recorded there on Sept. 4, 1899.

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posted on September 30, 2013

What is the Sparre name about?

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posted on September 30, 2013

Ty, That is just an error made by the person who read the original census documents and transcribed the name into digital form. I looked at the census page and the last name is “Spain” but the enumerator’s cursive handwriting makes it look like “Sparre” because the i is not dotted. This sort of thing happens a lot (human error) so it is important to check the information against other records and censuses to verify the accuracy.

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posted on September 30, 2013

Thank you to you and Suzanne. Your help has been tremendous. I am still concerned that our blood is not accurate. Is there a way to verify this?
Sorry so many questions, but I am become very interested lately.

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posted on October 1, 2013

Jubal B. Hancock

http://www.lauderdalecoms.com/jubalbhancock.html

Jubal B. Hancock

One of Lauderdale County’s First Citizens

“Old Uncle Jubal,” as he was affectionately called by Frank Durr, a former slave who wrote about the early days of Lauderdale County, was among Lauderdale’s first settlers. Hancock puts himself in the county as early as 1840 in an unsigned letter to the Jackson Mississippian newspaper. The letter, printed 25 August 1848, was in reference to Lauderdale County’s political leanings in the upcoming Presidential election. It indicated that the author had been in the county for eight years and had never seen Lauderdale “more firm and united” politically for a presidential campaign. The letter, having no formal signature, was signed with the initials J. B. H. Given Hancock’s political activities and position, it seems likely that it was written by Jubal Hancock according to Lauderdale County historian, Fred W. Edmiston, writing in his book on Lauderdale history, “Lauderdale, Mississippi’s Empire County.”

Durr puts the Hancock family in the county as early as 1839. He writes that one of Jubal Hancock’s sons, Buck Hancock (possibly W. M. Hancock), worked for James Dement in his “printing establishment.” The Dement family would soon be a prominent and well-known family in the printing and journalism business in Lauderdale County.

A well-known business man and public servant, Jubal Hancock was much respected by the citizens of the county. He was a veteran of the War of 1812, had in the early days held the offices of Mayor and Town Marshall, had managed the Marion Drug Store in the 1850s, and was postmaster at Marion from January 1854 to December 1860.

But Jubal Hancock’s first notoriety came much earlier; it began shortly after the signing of the Treaty of Dancing Rabbit creek in 1830.

Hancock was born in Virginia in 1791 and, very early on in his life, moved to Tennessee. There he met and married a Native American woman of the Choctaws. He moved with her to the tribal lands of north and eastern Mississippi and lived with her people becoming an accepted member of the Choctaw tribe. Together they had three children, before her death, possibly sometime around 1850. William M. Hancock, Mary M. Hancock and Caroline D. Hancock were all born before the ratification of the treaty in 1830. At the time of the signing of the Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek, William and Mary were over ten years of age while Caroline was under 10. Jubal was the head of household for his family including, of course, his full Choctaw wife.

Article 14 of the treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek explains, in part, America’s promise to the Native Americans:

“Each Choctaw head of a family, being desirous to remain, and become a citizen of the States, shall be permitted to do so, by signifying his intention to the agent within six months from the ratification of this treaty, and he or she shall thereupon be entitled to a reservation of one section of six hundred and forty acres of land, to be bounded by sectional lines of survey; in like manner, shall be entitled to one half that quantity, for each unmarried child which is living with him, over ten years of age, and a quarter section to such child as may be under ten years of age to adjoin the location of the parent.”

Jubal found himself in a difficult legal position. He, being white and, unlike the Native American heads of household, already a citizen of the United States, was not by treaty entitled to receive any of the lands being made available.

The Choctaw heads of household, who would (in theory) live on the lands awarded, remain in Mississippi, and become new citizens of the United States, were so entitled. His wife, being a full Choctaw was eligible to receive land but she was not the head of household. Jubal, no doubt realizing the legal tangle he faced, but not wanting his wife and children to lose their legitimate claims to the land, began a long legal battle that would last 12 years and take an act of the Congress of the United States to resolve.

Those members of the Choctaw who chose not to accept the land offered under the treaty had already begun the long “trail of tears” that would lead to the new Choctaw Nation lands set aside in what would soon become the State of Oklahoma.

Hancock submitted his claim for 640 acres of land on behalf of his wife, 320 acres each for William and Mary and 160 acres for young Caroline. The claim immediately encountered problems from Indian Agent William Ward who rejected it without consideration as being invalid but later, having received guidance from the federal government, reconsidered, sending Hancock’s claim and the claims of fourteen other white heads of Choctaw households forward to the War Department.

Finally, on 11 August 1842, the Congress of the United States settled the issue when it ratified and published a resolution entitled “An Act for the Relief of Jubal B. Hancock:”

“Be it enacted &c. [sic], That Jubal B. Hancock be, and he is hereby, authorized, on or before [1 January 1844], to enter at the proper land office, in legal sub-divisions, fourteen hundred and forty acres of any of the public lands of the United States, within the state of Mississippi, in lieu of a like quantity of land to which he and his three children… became entitled under the fourteenth article of the treaty of Dancing-rabbit creek…”

Resolutions were enacted to resolve many of the other land disputed revolving around the articles of the treaty but, although Hancock was now out of the fray, the controversy would continue for more than a hundred years.

Later, in 1846 when the Mexican War loomed dark on the horizon, even Jubal by now nearly fifty-five years old, perhaps remembering his service in the War of 1812 along side another county resident, Peter Urlick, was ready to take up arms against the new foe. In a letter to Governor Albert Brown he writes “The old Man, your humble servant, [referring to himself] has seen some service in 1812, and would like to accompany his two sons [William and Richard(?)] and teach them how to fight while in the service, but is unable, from lameness, to walk. Is there no chance for a place in the staff so as to get on horseback & go?… Please let me hear from you.” Fortunately for “The old Man,” Lauderdale’s two militia companies were not required for service.

Earlier this same year (1846), Frank Durr tells us that Hancock, while serving as Mayor and Town Marshall of Marion, attempted to thwart a gunfight at the Marion Brickyard. Although he arrested and fined the intended participants, the parties later returned to the brickyard and engaged in a fight. To learn more about the gunfight at the Marion Brickyard, review the MSGenWeb Lauderdale County web site article “The Marion Brickyard Gunfight.”

Hancock owned a large vineyard in the general area of Marion and apparently made a large amount of wine from the grapes. His neighbors, especially the younger ones, according to Frank Durr were “delighted [that Hancock] allowed everyone to help himself [sic] free of charge.” Whether Hancock had simply “mellowed out” in his later years or if his uninhibited distribution of wine was somehow related to his political aspirations in local politics is unknown.

After becoming an attorney, Jubal served as a probate judge for the county. In 1860 he was elected vice president of the Southern Democrats in Lauderdale County. The Southern Democrats that year ratified the nomination of John C. Breckinridge for President in the upcoming election. Breckinridge had been vice president under James Buchanan from 1856 to 1860. In the 1860 Presidential election of 1860, the democratic vote was split between Breckinridge and the Constitutional Union Party candidate, Stephen A. Douglas, allowing the Republican candidate, Abraham Lincoln to win the office.

In 1850 Jubal Hancock was living in Marion near C. E. Rushing, owner of Rushing’s Store. Living with him were Delia Ann Hancock (14), born in Alabama; Fidelia Hancock (12), born in Mississippi; Caroline D. Carter (26), Jubal’s daughter, having married Sam Carter in 1842, born in Mississippi before the signing of the treaty; and her son Branton J. Carter (4); and John Hancock (14), born in Mississippi. It isn’t clear exactly what the relationship was between Delia, Fidelia and John. Delia having been born in Alabama and John in Mississippi in the same year would seem to preclude them from being siblings and certainly only one could have been a child of Jubal but they are more likely extended family members. Further, there is no indication that Jubal may have remarried. By 1860, Hancock now 70 years old was living in the home of Walter Welch, a mechanic, who lived in Marion, not too far from that well-known Lauderdale Republican Newspaper editor and Lauderdale County Confederate hero, Con Rea.

Frank Durr also speaks of another county resident: “Mr. Dave Smith was quite a young man when he married in[to] the Hancock family. They made up the largest family circle of the county.” This was most likely David C. Smith who, born in Alabama in 1832, lived in the home of William Cheary, a Marion merchant. Smith was a clerk in Cheary’s store and, no doubt, well acquainted with Jubal’s son William M. Hancock who also boarded with Cheary. On 5 January 1853, Smith married Delia Ann Hancock, certainly a close relative, perhaps daughter (or grandaughter) to Jubal or child of an unknown sibling of Jubal. In 1870 they lived at Marion with daughters Frances, Cordelia, Jane, and Lula. Also living with them was Delia’s cousin (or sister) Fidelia A. Hancock. Fidelia Hancock married John McRea in Lauderdale on 1 August 1863. Further, living nearby were the one-time owners of former slave Frank Durr, E. A. Durr.

Jubal’s children apparently faired well in the county. His son, William M. Hancock, born about 1820 in Mississippi, was an attorney and Circuit Judge of the 8th Judicial District of Mississippi, which includes both Clark and Lauderdale counties. He held this post many years, later moving to Quitman in Clarke County, where he resided in 1870 with his wife Mary Jane, daughter Josaphine and son William M. Hancock, Jr. At this time they had two servants, John Blaking and Mary Ward, living with them.

Of Mary M. Hancock little is known. It may be that she passed away early in her life. Perhaps shortly after the issues with the treaty were resolved in 1842 as did her mother who was believed to have died around 1850.

Jubal’s youngest daughter Caroline D. Hancock, born about 1824 in Mississippi, married Samuel M. Carter on 25 July 1842 before Judge Benjamin Harry, a local Justice of the Peace.

Whether Richard was actually Jubal’s child or not remains a mystery. Only one reference to him has been found and that was in the informal writings of Frank Durr. He does not appear in the census material for any of the relative years. Further, that the nickname “Buck” was, in fact, used by Jubal’s son William, is a conclusion based on it’s usage in the writings of the time and not a certainty.

Jubal last appears in the U. S. Census in 1850 but it’s clear that he continued to be an active resident of the county well into the 1860’s. He and Sylvanus Evans opened a law office in Marion in 1864 but after this the trail goes cold.

Although much is unknown, it is clear that Jubal B. Hancock was a moving force in the organization and early politics of Lauderdale County. He was well-known in the Marion area and clearly an important early citizen of Lauderdale county.

Works Cited

This article is based on the writing of former slave Frank Durr as published in “Bits and Pieces Volume 1” and the masterful work of Fred W. Edmiston on the first 35 years of Lauderdale County, Lauderdale, Mississippi’s Empire County: Volume 1: The Early Years, 1830-1865." both works referenced below and both are available from the Lauderdale County Department of Archives and History’s web site. Click below to visit the web site and read the list of documents available.

Dawson, Jim, “Bits and Pieces Volume 1” Meridian: Lauderdale County Department of Archives and History, Inc., 1995.

Edmiston, Fred W., “Lauderdale, Mississippi’s Empire County: Volume 1: The Early Years, 1830-1865.” Meridian: Lauderdale County Department of Archives and History, Inc., 2005.

United States Census Bureau: 1850, 1860, 1870 U.S. Federal Census.

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posted on October 1, 2013

Reserving a tract
of two miles square run on
meridians and parallels so as to include the houses and
improvements in the town of Fuketcheepoonta, and reserving also a
tract of five thousand one hundred and twenty acres, beginning at a
post on the left bank of Tombigbee river opposite the lower end of
Hatchatiggee Bluff, thence ascending the river four miles front and
two back one half, for the use of Alzira, the other half for the use of
Sophia, daughters of Samuel Mitchell, by Molly, a Chaktaw woman.
The latter reserve to
be subject to the same laws and regulations as
may be established in the circumjacent country; and the said
Mingoes of the Chaktaws, request that the government of the United
States may confirm the title of this reserve in the said (names of) Alzira and Sophia.

Taken from the Choctaw Treaty with the United States in 1805, called “The Treaty of Limits”
Samuel Mitchell was at that time the U S agent to the Choctaws, undoubtedly running a trading post in the old Choctaw Nation of Mississippi.

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posted on October 1, 2013 and updated on October 1, 2013

1831 ARMSTRONG ROLLS (NATIVE AMERICAN ROLLS) OF CHOCTAW INDIANS LIVING EAST OF MISSISSIPPI RIVER:

Hancock, Jubel B =
Cultivated acres = 8
Number persons in family 3 (excluding head)
Children under 16 = 2
Quality of land = poor
Locality = Sukenatcha Creek, LeFlore District, on border with Mooshalatubbe District

From ancestry.com family trees:

Jubal Braxton Hancock, born 1791 Bedford, Bedford, VA Died 1864 Quitman, Clark, MS
Buried in Quitman Cemetery, Mississippi

Father= Captain Edward Hancock, 1754-1836
Mother= Jane Nichols, 1764-1844
Wife= Sophie Mollie Mitchell, 1802-1882, Choctaw Indian, 1/2 blood
Marriage Date= 8-28-1817 White County, TN
married at home of her uncle, Colonel William Mitchell.
Jubal B. Hancock was appointed postmaster 1-31-1854 Marion, Lauderdale, MS and later was a County Judge. He is buried adjacent to his buddy Sylvanus Evans, with whom he practiced law in Marion, MS.
1830 Census- Tuscaloosa, Alabama
1840 Census- Sumpter, Alabama
1850 Census- Southern District, Lauderdale, MS
1860 Census- Marion, Lauderdale, Mississippi

SOPHIA MOLLIE MITCHELL=
born 11-30-1802 Mississippi
died 12-8-1882 Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Father= Samuel Mitchell, born 4-13-1765,white man, once Indian Agent to Choctaw Nation before removal.
Mother= Molly Folsom, Full Blood Choctaw Indian

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posted on October 1, 2013 and updated on October 1, 2013

Here is your Indian Blood line per documents available, notice the inconsistencies of blood quantum given by the Dawes Commission to the children of William H. H. Spain and Hulda Louisa Huntress=

Gen 1- Samuel Mitchell (white man) married
Mollie (Molly) Folsom, Full Blood Choctaw
Gen 2- Daughter is Sophia Mollie Mitchell, 1/2 blood who married Jubal Braxton Hancock (white)
Gen 3- Daughter Mary Melinda Hancock, 1/4 blood
who married Thomas David Spain (white)
Gen 4- Son is William H.H. Spain, 1/8 blood who
married Hulda Louisa Huntress (white)

Their children are as follows, with quantum of blood given to them by Dawes Commission=
1. Grainger Spain, 1/32 blood Card # 309
2. Thomas George Spain, 1/16 blood, Card # 119
3. David McKnight Spain, 1/8 blood, Card # 144
4. Phildolia Spain, 1/16 blood, Card # 90
5. Beauregard S. Spain, 1/16 blood, Card # 162
6. J. B. Spain – no record on Dawes (dead?)
7. Hulda Spain, 1/16 blood, Card # 3529
8. Lillie Spain, 1/16 blood, Card # 4829
9. Hannah Spain, 1/8 blood, Card # 71
10. Mollie Marie Lee Spain, 1/32 blood, Card #
3972 who married Anderson Thomas

NOTE: All of the above named children were born of the same father and mother and should therefore have the same blood quantum of 1/16