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Dana sedgwic-Hickey Dana sedgwic-Hickey

posted on September 9, 2013

I’m trying to find out more about my families pass. I have always been told that our ancestors walked the trail of tears. It would mean a lot to me and my father to find our link to this pass.
What I know is my father’s grandmother was named Mary Edna Totten. She was born 9 Mar 1895 in Oklahoma. Her father was Alfred Totten born 22 Feb. 1849, mother Mary Pottroff born 9 july 1840.
Thanks to all for any help you can give.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on September 10, 2013

Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Totten John 0 M MCR832 P
Choctaw Totten Malinda 0 F MCR832 P
Choctaw Totten Mary 0 F MCR832 P
Choctaw Totten Mary Edna 5 F 1/16 MCR832 MCR
Choctaw Totten Alfred 10 M 1/16 MCR832 MCR
Choctaw Totten Engley 12 M 1/16 MCR832 MCR
Choctaw Totten Alfred 55 M 1/8 MCR832 MCR

p=parent
mcr=mississippi choctaw refused. it is a separate tribe, links in this post.

you may want the dawes packet for your family heritage. fold3.com has dawes packets and the price of one month’s subscription is less than the price of a dawes packet from oklahoma historical society or NARA.

i don’t know if your family walked the trail of tears. you would have to trace them back to the 1830s or so.

if natives lived on-reservation, they are on the native census reports, databases and rolls. if natives live off-reservation, they are on federal census reports because they were taxed and not under the authority of a tribe.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1940 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed.

you will need to know who the family members were 1830-1930 or so, where they were located. a good way to do this is by census records.
the first time period to concentrate on is 1900-1930 because most tribes enrolled during this period.
federal census records can help you here. you can get access through your local public library – two databases: 1) heritage quest, 2) ancestry.com.

the dawes roll shows the applicants to the five major tribes 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma. if your family applied for this, there would be a census card, dawes application, other supporting documents and testimony. these are located at NARA
http://www.archives.gov
try the fort worth, TX office.
there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the 5 major tribes list applicants on the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma.

requirements for enrollment for several oklahoma tribes:
http://thorpe.ou.edu/OILS/blood.html
What are tribal membership requirements?

Tribal enrollment criteria are set forth in tribal constitutions, articles of incorporation or ordinances. The criterion varies from tribe to tribe, so uniform membership requirements do not exist.

Two common requirements for membership are lineal decendency from someone named on the tribe’s base roll or relationship to a tribal member who descended from someone named on the base roll. (A “base roll” is the original list of members as designated in a tribal constitution or other document specifying enrollment criteria.) Other conditions such as tribal blood quantum, tribal residency, or continued contact with the tribe are common.

http://www.narf.org/nill/resources/enrollment.htm

enrollment is a two step process. first you have to get your CDIB card from the BIA to show your degree of blood/eligibility to enroll in a particular tribe, and then you have to apply to the tribe for acceptance, if you meet their membership requirements.

Tribal Government personnel, usually an Enrollment Clerk, located at a regional or agency office processes applications for Certificates of Degree of Indian Blood (CDIB) and Indian Preference in Employment, BIA Form 4432, to anyone who can provide documentation that he or she descends from an American Indian tribe.
http://www.bia.gov/WhatWeDo/ServiceOverview/TribalGov/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_recognition_in_the_United_States
this article has many resources.
however i find the paragraph on “Recognition for individuals” to be somewhat insensitive.

i think someone should rewrite that paragraph.

What are the most typical requirements for membership?
Each tribe has a base roll which was established, usually, in the early 20th century, listing the members of the tribe
at that time. Your first challenge will be to prove direct lineal descent from someone listed on that base roll. Then
you must prove that you have the required level of blood quantum – the percentage of your genetic make-up that
is native by bloodline. Most tribes require a 1/4 blood quantum – that is, you must be at least one-fourth Native
American – but note that the Eastern Band of the Cherokees requires that you be only 1/16 or higher to join, and the Cherokee Nation has no minimum quantum restriction, so long as you can prove descent. There may be other conditions for membership as well: requirements for tribal residency or continued contact with the tribe are common.
http://freedomcenter.org/_media/pdf/genealogy/16.%20Native%20American%20-%20Tribal%20Membership.pdf

choctaw enrollment, forms, FAQs
http://www.choctawnation.com/services/departments/enrollment-cdib-and-tribal-membership/

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com. fold3.com is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times, their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet. you can google fold3 and your ancestor’s name to see if your relative’s dawes packet is available at fold3.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on rootsweb.com or ancestry.com.
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try findagrave.com or interment.net. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. ancestry.com and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA (http://www.archives.gov) are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
several helpful links for records in the choctaw territory

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment. some mississippi choctaw were accepted by adoption or lawsuit.

for those people who do not yet have a card, you should research the 1900-1940 census to know approximate dates of birth, birthplaces, family members. this will also tell you if someone is more likely to be on the freedman roll or as applicants to the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma for the five major tribes.

applicants on the dawes roll can be found here:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial names are ok. look at the guide link for explanation of the codes.

when you find a possible name, then click on the card# in the card column to see the family group. if it is your family group, and they were likely enrolled, then you can search the oklahoma historical society’s dawes roll link to get the enrollment #’s for particular family members.
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

if your family was enrolled by council action early in the process or was enrolled by lawsuit, they might not appear on the oklahoma historical society website. you would have to check with the tribe on that.

even if your family was rejected by the dawes process, you may want the testimony, census card, application information for your genealogical purposes.

the federal census will also help you decide which state to contact for vital records.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

freedmen information:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ewyatt/_borders/
http://digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/F/FR016.html
http://www.african-nativeamerican.com/8-chocfreed.htm
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Five_civilized_tribes_in_Oklahoma.html?id=chATAAAAYAAJ
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.
http://www.archives.gov/southwest/finding-aids/native-american-microfilm.html

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA http://www.archives.gov for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23 RECORDS OF THE COMMISSIONER TO THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES 1852-1919
75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/075.html
(Record Group 75)
1793-1989

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.
you can try school records in the oklahoma state archives, the oklahoma historical society and NARA.
http://www.odl.state.ok.us/oar/
http://www.okhistory.org/
these two resources might have historical newspapers and local history books. your public library/interlibrary loan program might also have access to newspapers and local history books.

http://www.archives.gov

as for stories, you can see if any of the relatives are mentioned in the oklahoma pioneer papers or oklahoma chronicles.

http://digital.libraries.ou.edu/whc/pioneer/
volumes are alphabetical by surname.
if an interview is not online, contact the host of these interviews.

http://www.okhistory.org/publications/chronicles

as for location for your family, you should look on the federal census 1900-1940 for your family and this will give you locations, family members. your local public library probably has a subscription to ancestry.com and heritage quest.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
some obituaries:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/obituaries/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southeast tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

about blood quantum laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_quantum_laws
calculations about blood quantum:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wishawa4/Menominee%20Indians/quantum.htm

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
marriage records
http://www.okhistory.org/research/library/marriage.html
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chocmarriageindex.htm

other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html
http://yvwiiusdinvnohii.net/OKTribes.htm

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.
you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/ppcs/ppcs.html
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

rayson allen rayson allen

posted on September 10, 2013 and updated on September 10, 2013

Lewis O’BRYANT

Lewis was married to a full blooded Choctaw Indian woman. Lewis used the names O’Bryant and Bryant interchangeable. Lewis’ children applied for land in Mississippi under the 1830 treaty between the Five Civilized tribes and the United States. Lewis had sons named Louis, Alfred and Billy & maybe there were two as yet unnamed daughters.

STATE OF MISSISSIPPI

COUNTY OF NEWTON “My name is John Blakeley, my post office address is (?) Newton county, Mississippi, and I am about 62 years of age and have lived in Newton County for 50 years. I know most of the old settlers in this community. I knew an Indian who lived and died in what is now Newton County, Mississippi, whose name was Lewis Bryant. If I remember correctly Lewis Bryant had children whose names were Billy Bryant, Alfred Bryant and Louis Bryant. The lands in and around where Hickory is now built were formerly occupied by the Indian family called Bryants. Lewis Bryant’s grave is an old land mark now in the town of Hickory, Newton County, Mississippi. The history of the Bryants is well know in this community among the older settlers for the reason that it has often been said that the Bryant heirs would some day set up claim to the lands where Hickory is now built and the surrounding country. Some of the old settlers advised against the improvement of the land by the parties who have been in possession of the same. The land formerly occupied by the Bryants is situated on Pottocchitto Creek. The Bryants were known to be Mississippi Choctaw Indians and are said to have obtained the land as Choctaw lands under the Treaty of 1830 between the Choctaw Indians and the United States. Lewis Bryant’s grave is in the center of Hickory, Mississippi, and it is a notorious fact in this community that the Bryants or their descendants, will possibly assert their rights to the lands formerly occupied by the Bryants and who were taken possession of by other parties after the death of the said Lewis Bryant and his children. The younger generation of Bryants are scattered, so I am informed, in the county west of the Mississippi River. I am no kin to any of these parties have no interest in this matter and have simply stated the facts which are known to many of the old settlers in this community, as it is generally reported and handed down from father to son, that the heirs of Lewis Bryant will some day assert their claim to the lands above mentioned.”

The facts set forth above are true and correct and sworn before me on this 2nd day of April, 1906. – N. Doolittle, Justice of the Peace, Ardmore, Indian Territory, South

rayson allen rayson allen

posted on September 10, 2013

Hickory, Newton County (MS)

It is said that Lewis married a full blood Choctaw woman and owned land that is now known as Hickory (Newton County). He was given this land through a land grant in 1930’s under a Treaty of 1830 between the Choctaw Indians and the U.S. Upon their and their children’s death, descendants have tried to get the land back that was taken over by other people. It is said that Lewis’ O’ Bryant’s grave is an old land mark in the town of Hickory. It was said that Lewis himself had an appearance of being half blood Indian himself but passed himself off as a white man.
RNTapper added this on 19 Jul 2011 (ancestry.com family tree)

NEWTON COUNTY, MISSISSIPPI HISTORICAL AND GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY= " The first non-Indian person to own the land where Hickory is located was Louis Bryant. Under the terms of Provision #211, Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek, 1830, and such right granted Bryant as a result of his wife being a Choctaw woman, Bryant received a patent on January 29, 1840. He would later sell the land and move to Oklahoma Territory."
WILLIAM WARD (CHOCTAW INDIAN AGENT 1831) REGISTER (SENT TO WAR DEPARTMENT)=
“JUNE 25, 1831- Bryant, Lewis – White man, Indian wife, 3 children under 10 years of age, 2 over 10, from Chickasawhay River.”
1831 ARMSTRONG ROLLS ( Mississippi Choctaws living east of Mississippi River) = " Lewis Bryan, Nitachacha (Nitaketchi) District- 8 acres cultivated, Family size of 7 persons, 2 children under 16. 1 white person ( rest are Indians) Locality- Patuckchet Creek, south side, land tolerable, a good spring."
MISSISSIPPI CHOCTAW INDIANS TO WHOM PATENTS WERE ISSUED UNDER ARTICLE 14(TREATY OF DANCING RABBIT CREEK, 1830) found at accessgenealogy.com = “Bryant, Lewis – patent issued January 29, 1840.”
LINE OF DESCENT, FAMILY TREE OF WALTER DUFF= Lewis Bryant (1765-1850) married Louisa J. Ford (1767-1807, full blood mississippi choctaw) Son is Alfred Bryant (1801-1869) who married Nancy Shaw Ford (1807-1887) Daughter was Malinda Catherine Bryant (1825-1919) who married Dr. John Franklin Totten ( 1823-1840)
Son is Alfred Totten (1841-1927) who married Mary Pottorf ( 1840-1927) Their daughter was Mary Edna Totten ( 1895-)

rayson allen rayson allen

posted on September 10, 2013 and updated on September 10, 2013

This family was large and almost all applied to the Dawes Commission as Mississippi Choctaws. They were all classified as MCR (Mississippi Choctaw Refused) See MCR 832,MCR 834,MCR 836, MCR 837,MCR 838,MCR 852, MCR 853, MCR 854, MCR 856, MCR 859, MCR 860, MCR 861,MCR 356. They were all refused because they could not prove their lineage back to the Treaty of 1830, had no documentation and were from states outside of Mississippi. Notice the travels of John Franklin Totten and wife Malinda Catherine Bryant.1800 Census, Lewis Bryant living in Washington Co, Kentucky // 1810 Census, Lewis Bryant living in Bradston, Nelson, Kentucky // 1820 still living at Bradston, Nelson, Kentucky // 1830 Lewis Bryant living in Newton Co, Mississippi // 1840, still living Newton Co. Mississippi // 1850 Census, living in Centre, Fulton, Illinois // 1860 Census living in Leavenworth Co, Ward 3, Kansas // 1870 Census living at Stillwater, Payne, Oklahoma Territory, // 1880 Census, living in New Home, Bates, Missouri // 1890 Census living in Canadian Co,Oklahoma Territory // 1900 Census, living in Purcell, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory // 1910 Census, living in Perry, McClain, Oklahoma NOTES OF INTEREST FROM TESTIMONIES: Alfred Totten Family living in Tishomingo, Chickasaw Nation, I T on 11-19-1903. Living in Purcell, Chickasaw Nation on 9-22-1900. They left Illinois in 1855 for Kansas. Alfred Totten and Mary Pottorf (Pottroff?) were married 1864 in Leavenworth, Kansas. ALFRED BRYANT born 12-25-1801 Bardston, Nelson, Kentucky/ died 1869 Stillwater, Payne, Oklahoma Territory. Married Nancy Shaw Ford (1807-1887) This family did not walk the Trail of Tears with the Choctaw, but was present in Mississippi when the Removal Treaty was signed and later made application to Dawes Commission for identification as Mississippi Choctaws and eventually settled in the Chickasaw Nation of Indian Territory.

Dana sedgwic-Hickey Dana sedgwic-Hickey

posted on September 11, 2013

Wow! You all are awesome! Thanks for all the information. My dad did tell me last night that his grandmother was taken to the white man’s school. If I understood him she was taken away from her family?

Dana sedgwic-Hickey Dana sedgwic-Hickey

posted on September 11, 2013

So, I’m reading and rereading all you two have given me. It all seems to fit what I have so far. I have John Franklin Totten born in Illinois, Alfred (his son) born in Missouri, and Mary Edna brn in Oklahoma.
I will continue To gather info from the sites you have listed Suzanne, thanks.
I would love to find more on the Pottroff side the family. Truely wish I had enough percentage to try to enroll, but by the looks of this I don’t have enough. :-/

rayson allen rayson allen

posted on September 11, 2013

Dana, The policy of the US Government in those days was to place all Indian tribes on reservations or in Indian Territory and “assimilate” them into white society. To do this they rounded up or “collected” all Indian children age 8 and up and sent them to “Indian School” where they learned to dress and talk like white society and learned trades (boys) and housekeeping (girls). They stayed there until age 18 when they were “graduated” They were only allowed to return home on certain holidays. Any runaways or no shows were given a bounty on them for local law enforcement to hunt them down. A good movie about this is " The Only Good Indian" starring Wes Studi. My grandmother and mom’s
cousins all went to the Chilloco Indian School near the Kansas border with Oklahoma. This practice started in the 1880’s and lasted up until WWII in 1940. From what I have heard, Indians of all tribes and religion were placed together in these schools, causing a lot of fighting, turmoil and language difficulties. I also heard the punishment was severe.

Dana sedgwic-Hickey Dana sedgwic-Hickey

posted on September 12, 2013

How sad and interesting.
I have so much to learn and find out!
Thanks again!

Dana sedgwic-Hickey Dana sedgwic-Hickey

posted on September 12, 2013

I seem to think of something more after I hit reply.
According to all the info above, my ancestors lived where Hickory Mississippi is now. what Indian school would she been sent too?

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posted on September 12, 2013 and updated on September 13, 2013

1850 United States Federal Census about Jacob Bottorff
Name: Jacob Bottorff (Pottorff)
Age: 36
Birth Year: abt 1814
Birthplace: Indiana
Home in 1850: Washington, Washington, Indiana
Gender: Male
Family Number: 269
[Pottorff]
Household Members:
Name Age
Jacob Bottorff 36
Anna Bottorff 34
Louisa Bottorff 12
Catharine Bottorff 10
Thornton Bottorff 7
Benj F N Bottorff 3
Mary A Bottorff 1

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posted on September 12, 2013

1860 United States Federal Census about Annie Puttorff
Name: Annie Puttorff
Age in 1860: 43
Birth Year: abt 1817
Birthplace: Indiana
Home in 1860: Washington, Washington, Indiana
Gender: Female
Post Office: Salem
Value of real estate: View Image
Household Members:
Name Age
Jacob Puttorff 46
Annie Puttorff 43
Katie Puttorff 20
Thowton Puttorff 16
Benj F W Puttorff 14
Mary A Puttorff 11
Susan L Puttorff 8

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posted on September 12, 2013

1870 United States Federal Census about Annie Putaff
Name: Annie Putaff
Age in 1870: 54
Birth Year: abt 1816
Birthplace: Indiana
Home in 1870: Walnut, Atchison, Kansas
Race: White
Gender: Female
Post Office: Oak Mills
Value of real estate: View Image
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Putaff 54
Catharine Putaff 29
Thornton Putaff 26
Susan S Putaff 17

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posted on September 12, 2013

1880 United States Federal Census about Annie Putoff
Name: Annie Putoff
Age: 65
Birth Year: abt 1815
Birthplace: Indiana
Home in 1880: Newark, Wilson, Kansas
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Mother
Marital Status: Widowed
Father’s Birthplace: North Carolina
Mother’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Household Members:
Name Age
Louisa Strife 42
Susannah Strife 13
Edmund D. R. Strife 10
Emma Strife 1
Catharine Lang 40
Annie Putoff 65
Pleasant Sampson 5

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posted on September 12, 2013

1840 Census, Clark Co, Indiana
Jacob Pottorff Family of three, adult male, adult female, male child

1830 Census Northeast of the State Road, Clark Co. Indiana
Jacob Pottorff ( age was 16)
Father is Martin Pottorff
other relatives living nearby= Henry Potorff, Collins Potorff, George Pottorff, Andrew Pottorff

1820 Census Washington Co, Indiana
Martin Potorff Family
others in family= John Pottorff, Andrew Pottorff

ancestry.com – McCartney Family Tree =
Jacob Pottorff born 1814 Indiana died 1870 Kansas married Anna Mize born 1816 Indiana

ancestry.com – Moon Pappas Family Tree=
Jacob Pottorff born 1814 Indiana
Father was Martin D. Pottorff (1772-1860)
Mother was Elizabeth Coons (1772-1850)
Spouse was Anna Mize 1816- after 1880
Children: Louisa born 1838 // Katherine born1840 // Thornton born 1843 // Benjamin Franklin Nicholson born 1846 // Mary Ann born 1849 // Susan born 1852 who married William O’Bryant (Any relation to Lewis Bryant family?)

To answer your question about what school your dad’s grandmother attended:
She was born in Oklahoma, so she would have attended a school in Oklahoma. She would have been 8 years old in 1903. Her family lived in Tishomingo, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory on 11-19-1903. That is close to Ardmore, Oklahoma today. Unfortunately, the names and locations of Indian schools have been obscured and records are hard to find. What is known comes from oral testimony from family members, unless the school survived into later years (after 1940) like Chilloco did. After 1940 these schools became accredited “Industrial- Agricultural- Trade Schools” and began publishing yearbooks and graduating classes like any other school. Your best bet would be to research on your web browser for american indian reform schools, 1880-1940.

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posted on September 12, 2013

Kissing cousins? :lol

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posted on September 12, 2013 and updated on September 13, 2013

1850 United States Federal Census about Alfred Totten
Name: Alfred Totten
Age: 1
Birth Year: abt 1849
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1850: Centre, Fulton, Illinois
Gender: Male
Family Number: 94
Household Members:
Name Age
John Totten 27
Mabinda Totten 25
Emeline Totten 8
Mary J Totten 6
Nancy Totten 4
Margret Totten 3
Alfred Totten 1

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posted on September 12, 2013

Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1925 about Alfred Totten
Name: Alfred Totten
Census Date: 27 Jun 1865
Residence County: Leavenworth
Residence State: Kansas
Locality: Leavenworth Ward 3
Birth Location: Illinois
Family Number: 592
Marital Status: Single
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Household Member(s):
Name Age
Malinda Totten 43
Margaret Totten 18
Alfred Totten 16

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posted on September 12, 2013 and updated on September 12, 2013

1880 United States Federal Census about Alfred Totten
Name: Alfred Totten
Age: 35
Birth Year: abt 1845
Birthplace: Illinois
Home in 1880: New Home, Bates, Missouri
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Widower
Father’s Birthplace: Illinois
Mother’s Birthplace: Ohio
Occupation: Teamster
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Totten 35
B. F. Totten 13
C. J. Totten 11
Wilson Totten 2
M. D. Totten 20

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Oklahoma, Territorial Census, 1890 and 1907 about Alfred Totten
Name: Alfred Totten
Gender: Male
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Birthplace: Illinois
Relationship: Head
Race: White
City or Township: Township 11
County: Canadian
State: Oklahoma
Census Year: 1890