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posted on October 12, 2010

Am looking for information on my fathers parents. My fathers name is Doyle Turnbull he was born in Kemp Oklahoma. He would be about 90t years old if still alive. I would like to know the name of my grandparents.

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posted on October 13, 2010

doyle turnbull b.~1920 OK

1930 United States Federal Census
about Doyle Turnbull
Name: Doyle Turnbull
Home in 1930: Kemp, Bryan, Oklahoma
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Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1918
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s Name: Sam Turnbull
Mother’s Name: Jessie Turnbull
Race: Indian
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Sam Turnbull 42
Jessie Turnbull 42
Duglas S Turnbull 21
Pauline Turnbull 16
Donald Turnbull 14
Doyle Turnbull 12
Darwin Turnbull 7
June Turnbull 5
Gaylod Turnbull 9/12
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Kemp, Bryan, Oklahoma; Roll 1894; Page: 14A; Enumeration District: 28; Image: 558.0.
you can make corrections to the ancestry name index so that others can find your family.
sam is a mixed blood choctaw, b. OK, farmer, rents the farm.
jessie was b. TX, father b. MS, mother b. TX
the children were b. OK except for donald who was b. TX
i notice that the family next door is headed by doyle little, a mixed blood chickasaw. you might find they are related or just friends.

Social Security Death Index
about Doyle Turnbull
Name: Doyle Turnbull
SSN: 448-01-7709
Last Residence: 74112 Tulsa, Tulsa, Oklahoma, United States of America
Born: 10 Jan 1918
Died: 30 Sep 1999
State (Year) SSN issued: Oklahoma (Before 1951)

his social security application would have the names of his parents, more details about his life.

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about Doyle Turnbull
Name: Doyle Turnbull
Birth Year: 1918
Race: White, Citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Oklahoma
State of Residence: Oklahoma
County or City: Bryan

Enlistment Date: 16 Jul 1940
Enlistment State: Texas
Enlistment City: Dallas
Branch: Cavalry
Branch Code: Quartermaster Corps
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Three year enlistment
Component: Regular Army (including Officers, Nurses, Warrant Officers, and Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

Education: Grammar school
Civil Occupation: Farm hands, general farms
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 70
Weight: 165

U.S. Veterans Gravesites, ca.1775-2006
about Doyle Turnbull
Name: Doyle Turnbull
Service Info.: PVT US ARMY WORLD WAR II
Birth Date: 10 Jan 1918
Death Date: 30 Sep 1999
Service Start Date: 16 Jul 1940
Interment Date: 4 Oct 1999
Cemetery: Ft. Gibson National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: 1423 Cemetery Road Fort Gibson, OK 74434
Buried At: Section 16 Site 1121

i’m doing this to give you some dates, because you probably don’t have a lot of documentation about your father. you should get a copy of his obituary and death certificate.

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1
about Doyle Turnbull
Name: Doyle Turnbull
Phone Number: 838-0017
Address: 6331 E 7th St, Tulsa, OK, 74112-3117 (1993)

Household Members:
Name Age
Sam T Turnbull 33
Jessie Turnbull 31
Goldie Turnbull 14
Douglass Turnbull 11
Delbert Turnbull 9
Pauline Turnbull 6
Donald Turnbull 4
[4 1/12]
Doil Turnbull 1
[1 11/12]
when you correct the name index, you might put in his exact date of birth.

Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Kemp, Bryan, Oklahoma; Roll T625_1454; Page: 21A; Enumeration District: 25; Image: 471.

this record says that sam owns the farm. this could be an error, i don’t know.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Sam Turnbull
Name: Sam Turnbull
County: Bryan
State: Oklahoma
Birthplace: Oklahoma;United States of America
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1888
Race: Indian (Native American)
FHL Roll Number: 1851608
DraftBoard: 0

1910 United States Federal Census
about Samuel Turnbull
Name: Samuel Turnbull
Age in 1910: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father’s Birth Place: Oklahoma
Mother’s Birth Place: Arkansas
Spouse’s name: Jassie Turnbull
Home in 1910: Township 6, Bryan, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Married
Race: Indian (Native American)
Gender: Male
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Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Turnbull 22
Jassie Turnbull 21
Galdie Turnbull 5
Dauglas Turnbull 1
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Township 6, Bryan, Oklahoma; Roll T624_1244; Page: 20B; Enumeration District: 24; Image: 234.

sam is a cattle trader/salesman.
both children b. OK. jessie b. MS.
they have been married 5 years.

Social Security Death Index
about Sam Turnbull
Name: Sam Turnbull
SSN: 448-01-7708
Last Residence: 74747 Kemp, Bryan, Oklahoma, United States of America
Born: 24 Jul 1887
Died: Sep 1969
State (Year) SSN issued: Oklahoma (Before 1951)

this might be sam’s family:
Household Members:
Name Age
William Ellis 51
Mollie Ellis 34
Ella Ellis 4
Wiley Ellis 1/12
Samuel Turnbull 12
Rhoda Kemp 9
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 10, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll T623_1847; Enumeration District: 129.
he is listed as william ellis’ stepson

Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Ellis Mary 0 F 378 P
Choctaw Turnbill Sam 0 M 378 P
Choctaw Turnbill Samas 11 M 1/4 378 733 KEMP BB

i see that the fort smith criminal records show a murder charge against a sam turnbull. more information about that at http://www.nara.gov fort worth office.

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Name: Samuel Turnbull
Control number: NRFF-21-3W51-45691
Unit: File Unit
Series ID: 3W51
Unit ID: 45691
Title: Criminal Defendant Case File for Samuel Turnbull
Record Type: Textual Records
Content: Crime: Contempt
Jacket Number: 485
Production: 1873
Reference unit: National Archives—Southwest Region
Agency: National Archives and Records Administration
Facility: Building 1, Dock 1
Address: 501 West Felix Street
City: Fort Worth
State: TX
ZIP: 76115
Voice: 817-334-5525
Fax: 817-334-5621
Organization: NRFF
Creating org: United States District Court, Western District of Arkansas, Fort Smith Division.
Source: Kiosk OOPS

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Control number: NRFF-21-3W51-45691
Unit: File Unit
Series ID: 3W51
Unit ID: 45691
Title: Criminal Defendant Case File for Samuel Turnbull
Record Type: Textual Records
Content: Crime: Contempt
Jacket Number: 485
Production: 1873
Reference unit: National Archives—Southwest Region
Agency: National Archives and Records Administration
Facility: Building 1, Dock 1
Address: 501 West Felix Street
City: Fort Worth
State: TX
ZIP: 76115
Voice: 817-334-5525
Fax: 817-334-5621
Organization: NRFF
Creating org: United States District Court, Western District of Arkansas, Fort Smith Division.
Source: Kiosk OOPS

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Samuel Turnbull Crime: Contempt
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Name: Sam Turnbull
Control number: NRFF-21-3W51-45690
Unit: File Unit
Series ID: 3W51
Unit ID: 45690
Title: Criminal Defendant Case File for Sam Turnbull
Record Type: Textual Records
Start date: 1882
Content: Crime: Murder
Jacket Number: 190
Reference unit: National Archives—Southwest Region
Agency: National Archives and Records Administration
Facility: Building 1, Dock 1
Address: 501 West Felix Street
City: Fort Worth
State: TX
ZIP: 76115
Voice: 817-334-5525
Fax: 817-334-5621
Organization: NRFF
Creating org: United States District Court, Western District of Arkansas, Fort Smith Division.
Source: Kiosk

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Sam Turnbull Crime: Murder
Jacket Number: 190
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Name: Samuel Turnbull
Control number: NRFF-21-3W51-45692
Unit: File Unit
Series ID: 3W51
Unit ID: 45692
Title: Criminal Defendant Case File for Samuel Turnbull
Record Type: Textual Records
Start date: 1874
Content: Crime: Murder
Jacket Number: 190
Others tried for same crime (et al.)
Reference unit: National Archives—Southwest Region
Agency: National Archives and Records Administration
Facility: Building 1, Dock 1
Address: 501 West Felix Street
City: Fort Worth
State: TX
ZIP: 76115
Voice: 817-334-5525
Fax: 817-334-5621
Organization: NRFF
Creating org: United States District Court, Western District of Arkansas, Fort Smith Division.
Source: Kiosk

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Samuel Turnbull Crime: Murder
Jacket Number: 190
Others tried for same crime (et al.)

Source Information:
Ancestry.com. Ft. Smith Criminal Case Files, 1866-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1997.
Original data: The National Archives, Southwest Region. Defendant Jacket Files for U.S. District Court, Western, Division of Arkansas, Fort Smith Division, 1866-1900. Forth Worth, TX, USA: National Archives, Southwest Region.

Ft. Smith Criminal Case Files, 1866-1900
about Samuel Turnbull
Name: Samuel Turnbull
Control number: NRFF-21-3W51-45692
Unit: File Unit
Series ID: 3W51
Unit ID: 45692
Title: Criminal Defendant Case File for Samuel Turnbull
Record Type: Textual Records
Start date: 1874
Content: Crime: Murder
Jacket Number: 190
Others tried for same crime (et al.)
Reference unit: National Archives—Southwest Region
Agency: National Archives and Records Administration
Facility: Building 1, Dock 1
Address: 501 West Felix Street
City: Fort Worth
State: TX
ZIP: 76115
Voice: 817-334-5525
Fax: 817-334-5621
Organization: NRFF
Creating org: United States District Court, Western District of Arkansas, Fort Smith Division.
Source: Kiosk

so, you should get a copy of the enrollment application, census card, and possibly the criminal files. the criminal files will not give you genealogy information but might be helpful in establishing what happened to sam, sr.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

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