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Mia Mia

posted on July 16, 2013

Hello my name is Mia Brown. I am trying to trace my Choctaw blood. I have been told that grandfather was half Choctaw. My family is from Wilbur or Wilburton and Wewoka Oklahoma. Our Surname is Brown. My fathers name is Ira Gene Brown born to Zelma and Andy(Andrew) Brown in Wewoka OK 8/1/1939. Andy(Andrew) was born in Wilbur (Wilburton). My great grand fathers name was Nicholas . Nicholas Brown (b.Apr 1863-Choctaw Nation IT)and great grand mother was Mahaley Mahala Hallie Moore (b.Dec 1883-Choctaw Nation IT. My great great grand father was Elisha Brown b.May 1848-Choctaw Nation IT)possible wife : Chickasaw (possibly Abbie?) Woman (d.bef. 1872 and finally my great great great grand parents were Munday and Lucinda Brown.

Outside of my father and grand parents name the rest of the information has been given to me so I am not to sure how accurate it is.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mia

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on July 17, 2013

no date of death for nicholas brown.

1900 United States Federal Census about Nicholas Brown
Name: Nicholas Brown
Age: 37
Birth Date: abt 1863
Birthplace: Indian Territory, Oklahoma
Home in 1900: Township 4, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Race: Black
Relation to Head of House: Head
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Nicholas Brown 37
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 4, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: 1851; Enumeration District: 0095; FHL microfilm: 1241851.

nicholas owns a farm free and clear.
his is living next door to elijah brown and jennie brown, a husband and wife. they also own a farm free and clear.

Name Age Sex Blood Card No. Tribe Roll No.
Nicholas Brown 39 Male Card #1394 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #4632
Emeline Lewis 31 Female Card #1394 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #4633

ame Age Sex Blood Card No. Tribe Roll No.
Jennie Brown 42 Female Card #767 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1703
Rhoda Brown 18 Female Card #767 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1704
Anna Brown 16 Female Card #767 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1705
Simon Brown 14 Male Card #767 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1706
Eastman Brown 12 Male Card #767 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1707
Lucy Ann Brown 10 Female Card #767 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1708
Lewis Brown 7 Male Card #767 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1709
Bertha Brown 4 Female Card #767 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1710
Wilson Brown 2 Male Card #767 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1711

you should get a copy of the enrollment package for this family.

Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Bahnaby 0 M 1322 P
Choctaw Brown Bicey 0 F 1322 P
Choctaw Brown Bymgton 0 M 1322 P
Choctaw Brown Elizabeth 0 F 1322 P
Choctaw Brown Eight 1 M FULL 1322 3596 JANIS BB
Choctaw Brown Nicholas 4 M FULL 1322 3595 JANIS BB
Choctaw Brown Minnie 6 F FULL 1322 3594 JANIS BB
Choctaw Brown Frank 8 M FULL 1322 3593 JANIS BB
Choctaw Brown Elias 9 M FULL 1322 3592 JANIS BB
Choctaw Brown Kitsie 13 F FULL 1322 3591 JANIS BB
Choctaw Brown Arnes 15 M FULL 1322 3590 JANIS BB
Choctaw Brown Emma 21 F FULL 1322 3597 JANIS BB
Choctaw Brown Louisa 37 F FULL 1322 3589 JANIS BB
Choctaw Brown Eastman 47 M FULL 1322 3588 JANIS BB
Choctaw Fisher Amy 0 F 1322 P
Choctaw Ishnoah 0 M 1322 P

the card# is the family group.
p-parent
bb-by blood

try fold3.com for online records. the price of a month’s subscription is less than the price from oklahoma historical society or NARA.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1940 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed.

you will need to know who the family members were 1830-1930 or so, where they were located. a good way to do this is by census records.
the first time period to concentrate on is 1900-1930 because most tribes enrolled during this period.
federal census records can help you here. you can get access through your local public library – two databases: 1) heritage quest, 2) ancestry.com.

the dawes roll shows the applicants to the five major tribes 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma. if your family applied for this, there would be a census card, dawes application, other supporting documents and testimony. these are located at NARA
http://www.archives.gov
try the fort worth, TX office.

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com. fold3.com is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times, their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet. you can google fold3 and your ancestor’s name to see if your relative’s dawes packet is available at fold3.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on rootsweb.com or ancestry.com.
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try findagrave.com or interment.net. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. ancestry.com and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA (http://www.archives.gov) are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
several helpful links for records in the choctaw territory

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

for those people who do not yet have a card, you should research the 1900-1940 census to know approximate dates of birth, birthplaces, family members. this will also tell you if someone is more likely to be on the freedman roll or as applicants to the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma for the five major tribes.

applicants can be found here:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial names are ok. look at the guide link for explanation of the codes.

when you find a possible name, then click on the card# in the card column to see the family group. if it is your family group, and they were likely enrolled, then you can search the oklahoma historical society’s dawes roll link to get the enrollment #’s for particular family members.
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

if your family was enrolled by council action early in the process or was enrolled by lawsuit, they might not appear on the oklahoma historical society website. you would have to check with the tribe on that.

even if your family was rejected by the dawes process, you may want the testimony, census card, application information for your genealogical purposes.

the federal census will also help you decide which state to contact for vital records.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

freedmen information:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ewyatt/_borders/
http://digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/F/FR016.html
http://www.african-nativeamerican.com/8-chocfreed.htm
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Five_civilized_tribes_in_Oklahoma.html?id=chATAAAAYAAJ
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.
http://www.archives.gov/southwest/finding-aids/native-american-microfilm.html

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA http://www.archives.gov for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23 RECORDS OF THE COMMISSIONER TO THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES 1852-1919
75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/075.html
(Record Group 75)
1793-1989

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
some obituaries:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/obituaries/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southeast tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

about blood quantum laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_quantum_laws
calculations about blood quantum:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wishawa4/Menominee%20Indians/quantum.htm

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
marriage records
http://www.okhistory.org/research/library/marriage.html
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chocmarriageindex.htm

other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html
http://yvwiiusdinvnohii.net/OKTribes.htm

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.
you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/ppcs/ppcs.html
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Mia Mia

posted on July 18, 2013

Wow this is a lot of information. What is the easiet way to do my research. I find it confusing that we can not find the Indian blood line. If you where to see my family you would see the strong Indian blood line in our family. I question how accurate the census records are. I do not doubt some of my family where freedman but not all. I live in Sacramento CA. should I only try to do my research at a state library or would a city one be sufficient. Is there a way to do the research for free as well Ancestory.com has a fee.

Mia Mia

posted on July 18, 2013

If I am reading this right is the stating that Nicholas is 4 months old and he is full blood choctaw and same for Minnie full blood. These names are listed on my family tree that I was given.

Choctaw Brown Nicholas 4 M FULL 1322 3595 JANIS BB
Choctaw Brown Minnie 6 F FULL 1322 3594 JANIS BB

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suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on July 19, 2013

that nicholas brown is 4 years old, considerably different that the other record in my earlier post.

when was nicholas brown born?
who else was in their family?
these are very common names, so you have to be sure you are talking about YOUR relative nicholas brown.

we first need to be using genealogy terms.

name, date of birth, place of birth, date of death, place of death, spouse (maiden name if a female), children.

as far as census, it was self-report. some people were casual about it.

the picture link usually doesn’t work. the tribe needs to test that picture attachment.

go to your local public library to see if they have a subscription with heritage quest and ancestry.com databases. they probably do.

this is from your local public library:
Genealogy

American Ancestors Research genealogy using the New England Historic Genealogical Society’s collection IN CENTRAL LIBRARY USE ONLY Ancestry Library Edition Discover your unique family history with billions of records from around the world, including census and vital records, immigration and passport records, plus periodicals, books and photos. IN LIBRARY USE ONLY Digital Sanborn Maps Research local history with city plans and maps dating from 1867 – 1970.

http://www.saclibrary.org/Research/

learn about interlibrary loan at your public library. it is a very cheap and accessible way to get books, obituaries, newspapers.

i encourage you. there is information down there right now that can help you.

join a local genealogy society. they have volunteers that will help you learn how to do genealogy.

http://www.gensac.org/

suzanne hamlet shatto

Patrick Patrick

posted on July 19, 2013

Antique paintings found? Signed dated. Any records on these homeless Indian Children? Paintings seen at:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-U-S-Mennonite-1921-female-Myrtle-Hege-oil-pastel-watercolor-painting-/251306826822?pt=Art_Paintings&hash=item3a830ddc46

The General Conference Mennonite Church and Halstead Seminary had 15 Indian children from Oklahoma for students. For the 1892-93 school year Krehbiel contracted with the federal government to take 30 more students for $125 each. After the government ended its contract policy for homeless Indian children due to massacres in 1896, he helped organized the Orphan and Children’s Aid Society and they started an orphanage on his farm, they continued the schooling and were adopting out the children to neighboring farms of the Mennonite faith. Native American Mennonites?

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rayson allen rayson allen

posted on August 1, 2013

Hello Mia, Wish I had better news for you, but from the documents I have looked at on your family, it appears you were descended from slaves owned by a Chickasaw Indian woman named Katie Moore, who lived in Wilberton,Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory. This info comes from the Dawes Choctaw Nation Freedmen Rolls. They were originally entered on the Chickasaw Rolls when the Dawes Commission interviewed families in 1896. But since the Chickasaw Nation refused to accept Freedmen, this family was transferred onto the Choctaw Nation Rolls, application dated 8/1/1899.
Nicholas Brown application was accepted and approved 6/28/1904 by the Secretary of the Interior. See Chickasaw Card # 1364 transferred to Choctaw Card # 1394, Freedmen Roll. In 1896 he was 36 years old, Roll # 4632 and lived in Damon, Latimer Co,, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory with his sister Emeline Lewis (married name)Roll # 4633. Notes on the document say he married Mahala Moore in 1906. His parents are listed as Elisha Brown and Jennie Moore, Gaines Co, Indian Territory. Mahala Moore is found on Chickasaw Card # 1361, transferred to Choctaw Card # 780, Freedmen Roll, with enroll # 1733. Her father was William Moore and her mother was Elsey Moore. They were all slaves of one Aaron Harlan, living in Damon, Latimer Co. C N, I T. From the death record for Mahala (Moore) Brown, born 12/3/1882 Choctaw Nation Oklahoma and died 3/21/ 1951 in San Joaquin Co, California, we find her mother’s maiden name was Mitchell. This means she was a slave of a family, last name Mitchell. Just like the last name Moore came from Katie Moore’s family. According to Choctaw Card # 767 Freedmen Roll, Elisha Brown married Jennie Moore, who was a slave of one Jim Chiggler and sold to Katie Moore, living at Damon, Latimer Co. , C N, I T. Elisha Brown’s family can be found on Chickasaw Card # 985, transferred to Choctaw Card # 1192 Freedmen Roll. His parents were Monday Brown and Lucinda Brown, originally slaves of a Mr. Brown of Gaines Co, I T. A footnote says Lucinda Brown died in April of 1900. They lived in Wilberton, I T. Names on card are as follows: Lucinda Brown, 69, slave of Katie Moore // Elias Brown, 55, single // Minny Brown, 53, single // Elisha Brown, 51, husband of Jennie Moore // Benjamin Brown, 39, married Charlotte Tice, a non-citizen, on 4/12/1898 // Colonia Easter Brown, 3 months,born 4/2/1899, daughter of Ben Brown // Freedona Idetter Brown, 6 months,born 6/3/1901,daughter of Ben Brown. Charlotte or Shelottie Tice was a slave of one Henry Choate, a non Choctaw Nation citizen living at Brazil, I. T. Collins Brown was another son of Monday Brown and Lucinda Brown. He is on Chickasaw Card # 986, transferred to Choctaw Card # 1193 Freedmen Roll. He lived in Wilberton, I T. He married a non citizen named Mathilda and in 1899 was age 31. Their kids were Lizzie, Melvina 9, Moline 7, Becky 6, Edmund 5, John born 10/5/1897.

rayson allen rayson allen

posted on August 1, 2013

Here are the Census names from ancestry.com:
1900 Census, (living as neighbors) Township 4, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory William Moore, born 11/1849 // Elsey Moore born 5/ 1858 // Georgia A. born 2/1877 // Walton born 12/1878 // Mahalia (wife of Nicholas Brown)born 12/1882 // Elzenia born 3/1887 // Susie born 4/ 1893 // Crawford born 6/1896 // Louise born 9/ 1897…….
Nicholas Brown born 4/1863 single………Elijah (Elisha) Brown, born 5/1848 // Jennie Brown born 2/1856 // Amy A born 4/1867 // Rhoda born 12/1883 // Anna born 11/1885 // Simon born 1/ 1888 // Eastman born 1.1891 // Lucy A born 1/ 1893 // Lewis born 4/ 1895 // Bertha born 6/ 1899 // Wilson born 1900……1910 CENSUS Damon, Latimer, Oklahoma Nicholas Brown (spelled Nicklos Braum) 45 // Mahala Brown ( spelled Mahalia Braum) 28 //
Andrew 7, Eva (spelled Evalu) 4, Walter 2……..
1920 CENSUS Dow, Pittsburg, Oklahoma Mahala Brown (widow) 38 // Andy 16, Eva 14, Walter 11, Oliver 9, Turner 5………1930 CENSUS Brown, Seminole, Oklahoma Mahala Brown,widow, 47 // Andy 27, Eva 24, Walter 22, Oliver 19, Turner 15……
1940 CENSUS Wewoka, Seminole, Oklahoma Mahala Brown (widow) 57 // Walter 31, Oliver 29, Turner 25 Did not look up Andrew Brown family in 1940. All this info can be found on ancestry.com and fold3.com OR visit NARA (National Archives) in San Bruno, Calif., South of San Francisco, for microfilm of Dawes Rolls Choctaw Nation Freedmen. Admission is free but printed copies cost a quarter. I am not related but am Choctaw and do genealogy of my own. Good Luck on your research!

rayson allen rayson allen

posted on August 1, 2013

Just found another website: african-nativeamerican.com Start at “Indian Freedmen Records” > " Choctaw Freedmen Resources" > Choctaw Freedmen admitted to Citizenship, 1885 " > page 2
This shows names taken from 1885 Freedmen Rolls of the Choctaw Nation and their slave owners. They were not enrolled as Freedmen until 1896 when the Dawes Commission came into Indian Territory. Names are thus: Munday Brown, Lucinda Brown- slaves of Tecumseh Brown // William Moore, slave of Aaron Harlan // Arlsey (Elsey) Moore, slave of J. G. Ainsworth // Mahalia Moore and siblings, slaves of J. G. Ainsworth (and sold to Katie Moore in 1896)

Mia Mia

posted on August 16

Hello I am back at my research. I am still not accepting the fact that all of my ancestors was African slave’s in Oklahoma. Is it possible that they where captive Indians. Is there any place where I can find what part of Africa they came from? Do you know of any pictures on my relatives. If you see my family you know we are mixed people. I attached a picture of my father. Unable post two pictures at one time will post grandfather next.

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Mia Mia

posted on August 16

Here is a picture of my grandfather clearly not 100% African. Andrew Brown
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mia

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Mia Mia

posted on August 16

Here is a picture of my grandfather clearly not 100% African. Andrew Brown
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mia

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suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 16

mia, you have to do your own research. we can try to find records, but this is your family. we cannot see the pictures you post. something is wrong with the picture link and the tribe has to fix it – we cannot.

it is insufficient to have names, particularly when the surname is common. you need name (maiden name and married name), spouse, children, location, birthdate/birthplace, date of death/place of death. maybe a family tree has your relatives in it. have you tried to contact them, trade information and sources?

you do one generation at a time. childrens’ documents point to the parents, fix the family to a date and location. while it may be tempting, do not jump back in time without having the children documented. this can lead to you accumulating information about people that you are not related to.

you have to accumulate documents. vital records/birth and death will cost some $. census can be accessed through your local public library. obituaries through your local public library/interlibrary loan department. cemetery records at findagrave.com or interment.net and then contact the cemetery to see if there is more information.

much of this is free, things you can do online. but some of it will cost some money.

you should get genealogy software. try the free legacy software.
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/
you can turn this into a gedcom format and upload to rootsweb.com, a free website. this will help others find your family and contact you.
if you get to the point to want to have an ancestry.com subscription (about $20/month), you can upload a gedcom to that also. but don’t do this lightly. only do this if you can afford the $20/month and intend to continue it for a long time. the advantage there is that you can attach documents to your family, upload pictures, even produce a heritage book.

maybe you want to consider doing a DNA test. this will not identify a particular tribe, but it will give you matches. and through that, you can connect with relatives, find common ancestors. but you need good family tree information because the DNA test doesn’t identify common ancestors – you have to discover them. try 23andme.com saliva test for about $100 and then upload your DNA results to gedmatch.com, a free website. read the tutorials at gedmatch.com on the left and follow the upload directions on the right. the programs are in the center. you can use my kit# to see the kind of programs they have M114954. gedmatch registration is free.

you seem to concentrate on the nicholas brown generation. yes, he was alive during the dawes process. but there is little information on his children, dates or spouse, and this is a problem. this might be why you are not getting the information that you expect. the tribal enrollment process does not take pictures into consideration.

immediately, you should order the obituaries from your local public library/interlibrary loan program.
immediately, you can go to your local public library and use their ancestry.com subscription to acquire information about the generations living 1900-1940. you should start with the 1940 census and go backward in time. this will tell you approximate dates and locations and family members. census were self-report and required no identification or challenge. it will be what your family said about their origins. there is nothing preventing someone from saying that they are martians or were born 30 years later than they were really born. when i was an enumerator, some people claimed they were from outer space, some that said they were americans.

genealogy is a process and a vocabulary. you need to do things in a regular, systematized manner so that you get the right records for your family.

native records are secondary. get down to the 1900 time period for the choctaw tribe in oklahoma. other tribes enrolled at different times, but most tribes enrolled in the 1900-1940 time period. location is an important factor because natives had to agree to live under the authority of the tribe.

so pursue the census records first. the vital records.

you write but you give incomplete information. where was andrew brown born and when? who did he marry? when did he pass away and when? who were his children?

by 1900, there were over 1 million people living in indian territory/oklahoma. indian territory is a location, not a tribal designation.

suzanne hamlet shatto

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 17

from an ancestry.com family tree:
Andrew H Brown
Birth 12 Feb 1903 in Wilburton, Latimer, Oklahoma, United States
Death 3 Mar 1963 in Fresno, Fresno, California, United States

you might look at the california choctaw tribe.
http://www.oklachahta.org/

Family Members
Parents
Nicholas Brown
1863 – 1920

Mahaley Mahalia Hallie Moore
1882 – 1951

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Zelma Edwards
1909 – 1997

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Ira Gene Brown
1941 – 1994

Children of Unknown Spouse
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Andrew Brown Jr.
1930 – 2010

1910 United States Federal Census about Andrew Braum
Name: Andrew Braum
[Andrew Braner]
Age in 1910: 7
Birth Year: abt 1903
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Home in 1910: Damon, Latimer, Oklahoma
Race: Black
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Nicklos Braum
Father’s Birthplace: Oklahoma
Mother’s name: Mahilia Braum
Mother’s Birthplace: Oklahoma
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Nicklos Braum 45
Mahilia Braum 28
Andrew Braum 7
Evalu Braum 4
Walter Braum 2
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Damon, Latimer, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1257; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 0135; FHL microfilm: 1375270.
you should correct the ancestry.com name index so that others can find your family. i see why i didn’t find this record previously.

nicklas brown, head, black male, age 45, married 10 years, b. OK, parents b. OK, farmer on a general farm, reads and writes, owns the farm free and clear
mahilia, wife, black female, age 28, married 10 years, had 3 children and all survive, b. OK, parents b. OK, reads and writes
andrew, son, black male, age 7, single, b. OK
evalee?, daughter, black female, age 4, single, b. OK
watler, son, black male, age 2, single, b. OK

1920 United States Federal Census about Andy Brown
Name: Andy Brown
[Audy Brown]
Age: 16
Birth Year: abt 1904
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Home in 1920: Dow, Pittsburg, Oklahoma
Race: Mulatto
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Birthplace: Oklahoma
Mother’s name: Mahala Brown
Mother’s Birthplace: Oklahoma
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mahala Brown 38
Andy Brown 16
Eva Brown 14
Walter Brown 11
Oliver Brown 9
Turner Brown 5
Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Dow, Pittsburg, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1484; Page: 7A; Enumeration District: 186; Image: 107.

and this says mahalia rents a farm, is a mulatto, widow.

1930 United States Federal Census about Andy Brown
Name: Andy Brown
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1903
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Race: Negro (Black)
Home in 1930: Brown, Seminole, Oklahoma
Map of Home: View map
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s Birthplace: Oklahoma
Mother’s name: Mahala Brown
Mother’s Birthplace: Oklahoma
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mahala Brown 47
Andy Brown 27
Eva Brown 24
Walter Brown 27
Oliver Brown 19
Turner Brown 15
William Washington 12
Clifton Washington 3
[3 1/12]
Delmer Washington 3
[3 6/12]
Erba Jean Brown 2
[2 10/12]
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Brown, Seminole, Oklahoma; Roll: 1930; Page: 16A; Enumeration District: 0002; Image: 63.0; FHL microfilm: 2341664.

i see that some people found other people named andrew brown and linked census records, but i don’t think they are the same andrew brown.

mahala brown, head, rents a farm, female negro, age 47, married first at age 18, b. OK, parents b. OK, farmer on a general farm
andy, son, male negro, age 27, single, b. OK, parents b. OK, helper on the general farm
eva, daughter, female negro, age 24, single, b. OK, parents b. OK, helper on a general farm
walter, son, male negro, age 22, single, b. OK, parents b. OK, helper on a general farm
oliver, son, male negro, age 19, single, b. OK, parents b. OK, helper on a general farm
turner, son, male negro, age 15, single, b. OK, parents b. OK
william washington, nephew, male negro, age 12, single, b. OK, parents b. OK
clifton washington, nephew, male negro, age 3 1/2, single, b. OK, parents b. OK
delmer washington, nephew, male negro, age 3 1/2, single, b. OK, parents b. OK
erba jean brown, grandson, male negro, age 2 years and 10 months, single, b. OK, parents b. OK

1940 United States Federal Census about Andrew H Brown
Name: Andrew H Brown
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1903
Gender: Male
Race: Negro (Black)
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Brown, Seminole, Oklahoma
Map of Home in 1940: View map
Farm: Yes
Inferred Residence in 1935: Brown, Seminole, Oklahoma
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Resident on farm in 1935: Yes
Sheet Number: 16B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 298
Occupation: Farm Laborer
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 1
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 3rd grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 60
Duration of Unemployment: 26
Class of Worker: Working on own account
Weeks Worked in 1939: 26
Income: 450
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Andrew H Brown 37
Zelma Brown 30
Andrew Brown 9
Jeorilm Brown 8
Napoleon Brown 7
Nathaniel Brown 5
Lepatrick Brown 2
Iry Gene Brown 6/12
Source Citation: Year: 1940; Census Place: Brown, Seminole, Oklahoma; Roll: T627_3331; Page: 16B; Enumeration District: 67-1.

California, Death Index, 1940-1997 about Andrew Brown
Name: Andrew Brown
Social Security #: 447014917
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 26 Feb 1903
Birth Place: Oklahoma
Death Date: 5 Mar 1963
Death Place: Fresno
Mother’s Maiden Name: Moore

i don’t know if this website would be of interest to you.
https://www.seminolenationmuseum.org/history/wewoka-community/

Nicholas Brown
Birth Apr 1863 in Wilburton, Latimer, Oklahoma, United States
Death before 1920 in Wilburton, Latimer, Oklahoma, United States

1900 United States Federal Census about Nicholas Brown
Name: Nicholas Brown
Age: 37
Birth Date: abt 1863
Birthplace: Indian Territory, Oklahoma
Home in 1900: Township 4, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Race: Black
Relation to Head of House: Head
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Nicholas Brown 37
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 4, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: 1851; Enumeration District: 0095; FHL microfilm: 1241851.

1900 United States Federal Census about Mahalia Moore
Name: Mahalia Moore
Age: 17
Birth Date: abt 1883
Birthplace: Indian Territory, Oklahoma
Home in 1900: Township 4, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Race: Black
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father’s Name: William Moore
Mother’s name: Elsy Moore
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Moore 50
Elsy Moore 42
Georgia A Moore 23
Walton Moore 21
Mahalia Moore 17
Elzenia Moore 13
Susie Moore 7
Crawford Moore 3
Louise Moore 2
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 4, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: 1851; Enumeration District: 0095; FHL microfilm: 1241851.

nicholas brown lived next door to the moore family.

California, Death Index, 1940-1997 about Mahala Brown
Name: Mahala Brown
[Mahala Moore]
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 3 Dec 1882
Birth Place: Oklahoma
Death Date: 21 Mar 1951
Death Place: San Joaquin
Mother’s Maiden Name: Mitchel
Father’s Surname: Moore

is this your family?
Name Age Sex Blood Card No. Tribe Roll No.
William Moore 53 Male Card #780 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1728
Ailsey Moore 43 Female Card #780 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1729
Georgia Moore 24 Female Card #780 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1730
Walton Moore 23 Male Card #780 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1731
Simon More 21 Male Card #780 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1732
Mahaley Brown 19 Female Card #780 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1733
Elzina Moore 15 Female Card #780 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1734
Susie Moore 9 Female Card #780 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1735
Crawford Moore 6 Male Card #780 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1736
Louisa Moore 5 Female Card #780 Choctaw Freedmen Roll #1737

Family Members
Parents
William Kachubbee Moore
1850 –

Elsy Elcie Ailsey Mitchell
1858 – 1910

http://www.ancestrypaths.com/five-civilized-tribes/
to view the dawes packet
Reel 0071 Choctaw FR702-FR885
begins on frame 782

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/westhistquar.42.4.0459?uid=3739256&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104532512787
Indian or Freedman?: Enrollment, Race, and Identity in the Choctaw Nation, 1896-1907
Jesse T. Schreier
The Western Historical Quarterly
Vol. 42, No. 4 (WINTER 2011), pp. 458-479
Published by: Western Historical Quarterly, Utah State University
Article Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/westhistquar.42.4.0459

The Western Historical Quarterly © 2011 The Western History Association
Abstract:
This article examines the standards of tribal membership in the Choctaw Nation (present-day Oklahoma) during the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. Although forced by the U.S. Congress to make rolls of its members, the Choctaw government willingly used race to trump other considerations when it came to determining citizenship, including long-held cultural practices

see your local public library/interlibrary loan program for access to this article.

i don’t know if the tribe has more information on your family. to contact them, click on services, then departments, and enrollment department.

suzanne hamlet shatto