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Linda Phillips-Hatt Linda Phillips-Hatt

posted on June 25, 2013 and updated on June 30, 2013

of this is to find my family.

Linda Phillips-Hatt Linda Phillips-Hatt

posted on June 25, 2013 and updated on June 30, 2013

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suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on June 26, 2013

the trail of tears occurred in the late 1830s from the southeastern reservations in MS/AL to OK/indian territory.

natives that did not live on a reservation were disadvantaged in the enrollment process.

if natives were on the federal census record, they were not living on a reservation. if natives were living on a reservation, they were on the native census records and native databases and rolls. natives who lived on the reservation were not taxed, which is why they were not on the census.

you should give the name of your ancestor, their spouse, their children, dates and locations. that way people can tell whether you match their records.

it appears to me that your people were living off reservation.
you have a lineage older than many natives so you should count yourself lucky on that score. the war department kept records 1800-1900 or so, but usually these only included people living on-reservation.

tribes don’t have records because natives had an oral tradition, not a written language.

you don’t describe a southeastern lineage, however. try this link to see which tribes are possible. natives who were affiliated with a tribe lived near reservations or within the jurisdiction of a tribe. look at the various states you mention.

http://www.native-languages.org/virginia.htm
http://500nations.com/Virginia_Tribes.asp
http://wamu.org/news/13/05/24/six_virginia_tribes_seek_federal_recognition

heritage and tribal enrollment are two different topics. your family might be affiliated with a tribe but not enrolled formally in a tribe. some tribes are still seeking recognition.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1940 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed.

you will need to know who the family members were 1830-1930 or so, where they were located. a good way to do this is by census records.
the first time period to concentrate on is 1900-1930 because most tribes enrolled during this period.
federal census records can help you here. you can get access through your local public library – two databases: 1) heritage quest, 2) ancestry.com.

the dawes roll shows the applicants to the five major tribes 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma. if your family applied for this, there would be a census card, dawes application, other supporting documents and testimony. these are located at NARA
http://www.archives.gov
try the fort worth, TX office.

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com. fold3.com is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times, their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet. you can google fold3 and your ancestor’s name to see if your relative’s dawes packet is available at fold3.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on rootsweb.com or ancestry.com.
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try findagrave.com or interment.net. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. ancestry.com and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA (http://www.archives.gov) are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
several helpful links for records in the choctaw territory

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

for those people who do not yet have a card, you should research the 1900-1940 census to know approximate dates of birth, birthplaces, family members. this will also tell you if someone is more likely to be on the freedman roll or as applicants to the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma for the five major tribes.

applicants can be found here:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial names are ok. look at the guide link for explanation of the codes.

when you find a possible name, then click on the card# in the card column to see the family group. if it is your family group, and they were likely enrolled, then you can search the oklahoma historical society’s dawes roll link to get the enrollment #’s for particular family members.
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

if your family was enrolled by council action early in the process or was enrolled by lawsuit, they might not appear on the oklahoma historical society website. you would have to check with the tribe on that.

even if your family was rejected by the dawes process, you may want the testimony, census card, application information for your genealogical purposes.

the federal census will also help you decide which state to contact for vital records.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

freedmen information:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ewyatt/_borders/
http://digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/F/FR016.html
http://www.african-nativeamerican.com/8-chocfreed.htm
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Five_civilized_tribes_in_Oklahoma.html?id=chATAAAAYAAJ
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.
http://www.archives.gov/southwest/finding-aids/native-american-microfilm.html

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA http://www.archives.gov for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23 RECORDS OF THE COMMISSIONER TO THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES 1852-1919
75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/075.html
(Record Group 75)
1793-1989

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
some obituaries:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/obituaries/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southeast tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

about blood quantum laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_quantum_laws
calculations about blood quantum:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wishawa4/Menominee%20Indians/quantum.htm

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
marriage records
http://www.okhistory.org/research/library/marriage.html
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chocmarriageindex.htm

other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html
http://yvwiiusdinvnohii.net/OKTribes.htm

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.
you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/ppcs/ppcs.html
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Linda Phillips-Hatt Linda Phillips-Hatt

posted on June 28, 2013

Thank you Suzanne. I have started getting the death cert. I will look into these others. Blessing on you for your help. Linda

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on June 29, 2013

i don’t know who gave you those names that were on the dawes roll. i did note that the surnames/names were common.

you should seek documents of the people in your line.

try for an obituary and a cemetery record. obituaries can come from your local public library/interlibrary loan. state historical societies and archives also have historical newspapers. cemetery record might be on findagrave.com or interment.net and then you should contact the cemetery to see if there is more information.

i don’t know what documents you have to support your lineage.
3. Grandmother – Isa Pearl Cunningham Born 1896 – 1980 Born in Preston co., W. Va. Died in Kitzmiller Md.- Cherokee Choctaw and Irish
Floyd Ray Phillips 1891 – 1969 married Isa March 18,1916 (Cherokee an Irish)
this is the generation that was alive around the time of the enrollments.

if your people did not live in oklahoma, i don’t know why they would be on the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in the state of oklahoma/indian territory.

found just one record:

1920 United States Federal Census about Icie P Phillips
Name: Icie P Phillips
[Icie Pw Phillips]
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1897
Birthplace: West Virginia
Home in 1920: Reno, Preston, West Virginia
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Floyd R Phillips
Father’s Birthplace: West Virginia
Mother’s Birthplace: West Virginia
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Floyd R Phillips 28
Icie P Phillips 23
Ethel B Phillips 5
Clarence P Phillips 2
[2 10/12]
Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Reno, Preston, West Virginia; Roll: T625_1969; Page: 31B; Enumeration District: 179; Image: 1051.

West Virginia, Marriages Index, 1785-1971 about Icy Pearl Fortney
Name: Icy Pearl Fortney
Gender: Female
Spouse’s Name: Floyd R Phillips
Spouse Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 1916
Marriage Place: Preston, West Virginia, United States

Isa Pearl Cunningham Helmick
record on findagrave.com
Birth: Mar. 18, 1896
Howesville
Preston County
West Virginia, USA
Death: Mar., 1980
Kitzmiller
Garrett County
Maryland, USA

Married first husband: Floyd Ray Philips 19 March, 1916 Howesville, Preston, WV. Marriage to second husband unknown (Blaine Helmick)

Bio info contributed by Corine Hardman

Family links:
Spouse:
Blaine Joshua Helmick (1880 – 1965)*

Children: Ross Eugene Phillips (1920 – 2002)* Joseph Hansford Phillips (1926 – 2007)* Georgia Helmick Kolb (1929 – 2009)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial:
R.D. Dean Memorial I.O.O.F. Cemetery
Elk Garden
Mineral County
West Virginia, USA

1940 United States Federal Census about Isa P Helmick
Name: Isa P Helmick
Respondent: Yes
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: West Virginia
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Home in 1940: Garrett, Maryland
View Map
Street: Kitzmiller-Glerson-Road
Inferred Residence in 1935: Garrett, Maryland
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 4A
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 4th grade
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Blaine G Helmick 60
Isa P Helmick 44
Edna M Philips 18
Maud A Philips 16
Walter R Philips 15
Joseph H Philips 13
Gereld Helmick 10
William H Helmick 8
Elaine Fortney 5
James F Helmick 6/12
Source Citation: Year: 1940; Census Place: , Garrett, Maryland; Roll: T627_1550; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 12-23.

1930 United States Federal Census about Walter R Helmick
Name: Walter R Helmick
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1925
Birthplace: West Virginia
Race: White
Home in 1930: Kitzmillerville, Garrett, Maryland
View Map
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s Name: Blaine Helmick
Father’s Birthplace: West Virginia
Mother’s Name: Isa P Helmick
Mother’s Birthplace: West Virginia
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Blaine Helmick 43
Isa P Helmick 34
Ethel B Helmick 15
Clarence P Helmick 13
Ross Helmick 9
Edna Helmick 8
Mollie A Helmick 6
Walter R Helmick 5
Joseph H Helmick 3
[3 5/12]
Georgia Helmick 0
[5/12]
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Kitzmillerville, Garrett, Maryland; Roll: 875; Page: 9A; Enumeration District: 22; Image: 381.0; FHL microfilm: 2340610.

Linda Phillips-Hatt Linda Phillips-Hatt

posted on June 30, 2013 and updated on June 30, 2013

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suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on June 30, 2013

i have noticed that the picture link does not work. the choctaw tribe should fix that.

you need to understand what the dawes roll means, the requirements for tribal enrollment of the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. if people were living in virginia/west virginia,they would probably be unable to establish their heritage with the choctaw tribe of oklahoma because they would have been unable to come up with the evidence of tribal affiliation because they were living off-reservation.

but your family could be shawnee and some were enrolled with the cherokee tribe. i am not saying that those people were related to you or that they were enrolled. you should look on the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in oklahoma/indian territory and see the family groups, not just the enrollment #. the family group is the card #.

since there are many with those names, i have no idea which one might be your family group. in fact, it appears that they are not your family group.

for instance:
Search the Dawes Final Rolls
Your search returned 3 Results

To narrow your search results please select a tribe.
Name Age Sex Blood Card No. Tribe Roll No.
Mary L. Parker 19 Female Full Card #10476 Cherokee by Blood Roll #31133
Mary Parker 37 Female Full Card #171 Cherokee Delaware Roll #182
Mary Parker 38 Female Full Card #0 Choctaw Mississippi Roll #1056

Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Delaware Bigfield 0 M 171 P
Delaware Bigfield Mary 0 F 171 P
Delaware Parker Mary 35 F FULL 171 182 BB

p=parent
bb=by blood

Name Age Sex Blood Card No. Tribe Roll No.
Andy Miller 38 Male Full Card #8801 Cherokee by Blood Roll #29886
Sallie Miller 31 Female Full Card #8801 Cherokee by Blood Roll #29887
Lee Miller 15 Male Full Card #8801 Cherokee by Blood Roll #29888
Henry Miller 13 Male Full Card #8801 Cherokee by Blood Roll #29889
Dave Miller 6 Male Full Card #8801 Cherokee by Blood Roll #29890
Lillie Miller 4 Female Full Card #8801 Cherokee by Blood Roll #29891

Dawes Results
Total Records: 3 Tribe Last First Middle Age Sex Blood Card Roll Misc Type
Cherokee Calvin 0 M 8995 P
Cherokee Chacahka 0 F 8995 P
Cherokee Miller John 30 M FULL 8995 25896 ROSE BB

Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Cole Edmund 0 M 1709 P
Choctaw Cole Sarabel 0 F 1709 P
Choctaw Cole Susan 24 F FULL 1709 4825 ANTLERS BB
Choctaw Cole Eastman 27 M FULL 1709 4824 ANTLERS BB
Choctaw May William 0 M 1709 P
Choctaw Scott Sibitee 0 F 1709 P

ok, there are the family groups.
i don’t even find these names in your genealogy.

why would people from WV/VA be on the dawes roll in oklahoma 1896-1906?
how are these people connected with your genealogy? are the family groups familiar to you?

people came to oklahoma for business opportunities and land rushes. this is not unusual. there are over 1 million people living in oklahoma/indian territory by 1900 census. about 150,000 applied for enrollment to the five major tribes.

there are natives who did not enroll. they might have been philosophically opposed to enrollment or may not have qualified for enrollment.

they had to be living under the authority of the tribe by 1896-1906 to be enrolled in a tribe. that meant they had to be living in oklahoma by that time. there are qualifications for membership in every tribe.

the reservation for the choctaw was in AL/MS. if your people were choctaw, they were living off-reservation for many years. the locations you describe are very far north for the choctaw.

do not confuse heritage with tribal enrollment. they are two different topics.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Linda Phillips-Hatt Linda Phillips-Hatt

posted on June 30, 2013

I’m not looking for tribal membership. Just my family.

Linda Phillips-Hatt Linda Phillips-Hatt

posted on June 30, 2013 and updated on July 3, 2013

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Linda Phillips-Hatt Linda Phillips-Hatt

posted on June 30, 2013 and updated on July 3, 2013

Thank you for what help you have given me.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on July 1, 2013

i am not criticizing you. i am telling you about the tribal membership requirements, giving you resources to research native records.

your family lives far north of where the choctaw were living. if they were native, they were probably of a different tribe. location is an important factor in tribal affiliation.

you should look where your family was living 1900-1930, when most of the tribal enrollments occurred. then look for a nearby tribe.

i’m sorry about your feelings.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Linda Phillips-Hatt Linda Phillips-Hatt

posted on July 1, 2013 and updated on July 3, 2013

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