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Joshua W Warrren

Tamura Tamura

posted on September 29, 2010

I am interested in finding out about my great grandfather Joshua W Warren. He and my grand mother lived in Sapulpa, Oklahoma in the late 1800’s. He was survived by my grand-mother whose name was Thelma Warren.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on September 29, 2010

joshua w. warren m. thelma ?

was this your family?
Household Members:
Name Age
Josh W Warren 29
Cora Warren 22
Thelma Warren 0/12
Vester Willson 23
Tom Datson 19
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Campbell, Sequoyah, Oklahoma; Roll T624_1272; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 196; Image: 390.

josh was b. ~1881 AR,, father b. IN, mother b. AR
cora was b. ~1888 AR, parents b. AR
thelma was b. april or may 1910 OK
vester and tom are hired hands
josh is a farmer on a general farm, rents the farm

they were married 11 months before the census was taken on may 3.

Household Members:
Name Age
Josh Warren 40
Ola Warren 18
Thelma Warren 9
William W Warren 8
Vera M Warren 6
Maudy R Warren 5
Edna Warren 0
[8/12]
Irl Herren 16
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Campbell, Sequoyah, Oklahoma; Roll T625_1488; Page: 12B; Enumeration District: 149; Image: 115.
this might be the same family.

ola was b. OK. maybe she is a second wife?
irl? is a cousin.
josh still rents a farm.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Peter Joshua Warren
Name: Peter Joshua Warren
County: Sequoyah
State: Oklahoma
Birth Date: 26 Apr 1879
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1852128
DraftBoard: 0

some records on ancestry post this:
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  • Peter Joshua Warren
*

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  • Birth
    *
    o 04/26/1878
    o in Alma, Arkansas, USA
  • Death
    *
    o 01/12/1958
    o in Gore, Sequoyah, Oklahoma, USA

#
#

Ola Frances Muncy
1900 – 1984

Cora Lee Dotson

* 1909 Age: 31 * Marriage to Cora Lee Dotson * * 1917 17 Nov Age: 39 * Marriage to Ola Frances Muncy Vian, Sequoyah, Oklahoma

i don’t know if this is your relative, but it is the best match i could find.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto