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april april

posted on May 15, 2013

Hello, my name is April..and I am seeking information about my great-great grandmother and her family. I believe I have found her listed on the Dawes roll:I was wondering if there is any help you could provide me? her name was Minnie Lena Jones was born on 14 Sep 1901 in Bebee, Indian Territory, Oklahoma. her parents were: Louvinnie Pallastine “Pallie” ROBERTS and John Milo JONES. Below is the information that I found on the oaklahoma historical society website. Please any help you could give me would be greatly appriceated, thank you very much for your time.
Minnie Jones 2 Female 3/4 Card #4868 Choctaw by Blood Roll #15853
Does anyone know any history on the Jones/Roberts branch of the choctaws?

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on May 16, 2013

as you know, this is a common name.

the Card 4868 is a family group #.

this is the family group:
Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Jones Jimson 0 M 4868 P
Choctaw Jones Sophia 0 F 4868 P
Choctaw Jones Minnie 2 F 3/4 4868 NR VIRETON BB
Choctaw Jones Missie 4 F 3/4 4868 NR VIRETON BB
Choctaw Jones Edmund 7 M 3/4 4868 NR VIRETON BB
Choctaw Jones Robert 17 M 3/4 4868 NR VIRETON BB
Choctaw Jones Rebecca 32 F 3/4 4868 NR VIRETON BB
Choctaw Jones Samuel 41 M 3/4 4868 NR VIRETON BB
Choctaw Leflore Billy 0 M 4868 P
Choctaw Leflore Mary 0 F 4868 P

p=parent

samuel jones and rebecca leflore had children robert, edmund, minnie and missie in this family.

this does not seem to be your relative.

i am not finding any match for louvinnie jones, even trying several spellings. while there are people with this name, none of the them have a child named minnie that was newborn (NB) or very young at the time of the application.

is this your family?

1910 United States Federal Census about Minnie Jones
Name: Minnie Jones
Age in 1910: 8
Birth Year: abt 1902
1902
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Home in 1910: Township 6, Bryan, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father’s Name: J M Jones
Father’s Birthplace: Missouri
Mother’s Name: R E Jones
Mother’s Birthplace: Texas
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
J M Jones 59
57
R E Jones 41
S M Jones 18
Pearlie Jones 15
Mamie Jones 12
Minnie Jones 8
Hattie M Jones 4
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Township 6, Bryan, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1244; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 0025; FHL microfilm: 1375257.

these people are renting a farm, which indicates that they probably didn’t received an allotment of land from the tribe and therefore were probably not enrolled in a tribe.

is this her death certificate?

California, Death Index, 1940-1997 about Minnie Jones
Name: Minnie Jones
[Minnie Sanford]
Social Security #: 447101085
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 8 Aug 1903
Birth Place: Oklahoma
Death Date: 27 Dec 1953
Death Place: Fresno
Mother’s Maiden Name: Robinson
Father’s Surname: Sanford

1910 United States Federal Census about J M Jones
Name: J M Jones
Age in 1910: 59
57
Birth Year: abt 1853
1851
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1910: Township 6, Bryan, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: R E Jones
Father’s Birthplace: Kentucky
Mother’s Birthplace: Kentucky

kentucky did not have reservations and there are no currently recognized tribes. many natives lived off-reservation but they would have had trouble proving their connection to a tribe because of their choice of residence. that is why many natives who migrated to indian territory/oklahoma did not apply for enrollment in a tribe.

http://www.aaanativearts.com/tribes-by-states/kentucky_tribes.htm

1910 United States Federal Census about R E Jones
Name: R E Jones
Age in 1910: 41
Birth Year: abt 1869
1869
Birthplace: Texas
Home in 1910: Township 6, Bryan, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: J M Jones
Father’s Birthplace: California
Mother’s Birthplace: Texas

the trail of tears in the late 1830s did not go through texas but many unofficial migrations did. the wife’s family may have had the same problem.

maybe this is your family:

1910 United States Federal Census about Minnie Jones
Name: Minnie Jones
Age in 1910: 8
Birth Year: abt 1902
1902
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Home in 1910: Maxwell, Pontotoc, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: John Jones
Father’s Birthplace: Oklahoma
[Arkansas]
Mother’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Jones 27
Pallie Jones 24
Minnie Jones 8
Eddie Jones 7
1
Henry Jones 5
Bert Jones 3
Eloy Jones 2
3
Author Jones 0
[3/12]
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Maxwell, Pontotoc, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1270; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 0258; FHL microfilm: 1375283.

Social Security Death Index about Minnie Palmer
Name: Minnie Palmer
SSN: 443-26-1780
Last Residence: 74820 Ada, Pontotoc, Oklahoma, United States of America
Born: 14 Sep 1901
Died: Nov 1983
State (Year) SSN issued: Oklahoma (Before 1951)

findagrave page:
minnie lena palmer:
Birth: Sep. 14, 1901
Death: Nov. 8, 1983

Burial:
Rosedale Cemetery
Ada
Pontotoc County
Oklahoma, USA

you can see if there is any information at the cemetery. you can get a death record which might list more detail about her birth.
you can get a copy of her social security application with an SS-5 form. you can get a copy of her delayed birth certificate or birth certificate from state vital records. people had to show a birth document for proof of age when they applied for social security.

this might be john jones’ family:

1900 United States Federal Census about John Jones
Name: John Jones
Age: 17
Birth Date: abt 1883
Birthplace: Texas
Home in 1900: Township 4, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s Name: Frank Jones
Mother’s Name: Licinda Jones
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Jones 47
Licinda Jones 47
John Jones 17
Eurie Jones 15
Enoch Jones 14
Frank Jones 9
Virgie Jones 6
Viola Jones 5
Bertha Jones 2
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 4, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: 1846; Enumeration District: 0120; FHL microfilm: 1241846.

this is findagrave.com’s page for john milo jones:
Birth: May 11, 1882
Death: Feb. 5, 1959

Family links:
Parents:
Franklin Travis “Tabby” Jones (1853 – 1931)
Lusinda Cockrum Jones (1854 – 1921)

Spouse: Louvinnie Pallastine Roberts, Jones (1884 – 1945)* Children: Robert Lee Jones (1922 – 1975)* Ted Jones (1925 – 1984)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial:
Rosedale Cemetery
Ada
Pontotoc County
Oklahoma, USA

Louvinnie Pallastine Roberts, Jones
Birth: Oct. 29, 1884
Atkins
Pope County
Arkansas, USA
Death: Nov. 19, 1945
Oil Center
Pontotoc County
Oklahoma, USA

Parents- Amos Pleasant Roberts Jr. & Mary Jane Maddox, Roberts.
Husband- John Milo Jones .
10-Children- Minnie Lena , Pleas Edward , Henry Franklin , Bert , Elva Milo , Arthur Willis , Lester , Esther, Robert Lee , Ted.

Family links:
Parents:
Mary Jane Maddox Roberts (1844 – 1943)

Spouse: John Milo Jones (1882 – 1959) Children: Robert Lee Jones (1922 – 1975)* Ted Jones (1925 – 1984)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial:
Rosedale Cemetery
Ada
Pontotoc County
Oklahoma, USA

it appears that you could get documents on john milo jones and louvinnie pallastine roberts jones also.

this family also rents a farm according to the 1910 census. and there is a roberts family nearby.

Birth: Oct. 29, 1884
Atkins
Pope County
Arkansas, USA
Death: Nov. 19, 1945
Oil Center
Pontotoc County
Oklahoma, USA

Parents- Amos Pleasant Roberts Jr. & Mary Jane Maddox, Roberts.
Husband- John Milo Jones .
10-Children- Minnie Lena , Pleas Edward , Henry Franklin , Bert , Elva Milo , Arthur Willis , Lester , Esther, Robert Lee , Ted.

Family links:
Parents:
Mary Jane Maddox Roberts (1844 – 1943)

Spouse: John Milo Jones (1882 – 1959) Children: Robert Lee Jones (1922 – 1975)* Ted Jones (1925 – 1984)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial:
Rosedale Cemetery
Ada
Pontotoc County
Oklahoma, USA

1900 United States Federal Census about Pallie Robert
Name: Pallie Robert
Age: 14
Birth Date: abt 1886
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1900: Township 4, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father’s Name: Pleasant Robert
Mother’s Name: Mary Robert
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Pleasant Robert 53
Mary Robert 55
Ellen Robert 20
Ellis Robert 19
Pallie Robert 14
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 4, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: 1846; Enumeration District: 0120; FHL microfilm: 1241846.

1900 United States Federal Census about Pleasant Robert
Name: Pleasant Robert
Age: 53
Birth Date: abt 1847
Birthplace: Alabama

1900 United States Federal Census about Mary Robert
Name: Mary Robert
Age: 55
Birth Date: abt 1845
Birthplace: Alabama

this family might be MOWA or mississippi choctaw. see these links in this post.

Amos Pleasant Roberts, Jr
Birth: Dec. 4, 1846
Tuscaloosa County
Alabama, USA
Death: Dec. 4, 1930
Ada
Pontotoc County
Oklahoma, USA

Amos Pleasant ROBERTS , Jr.

Birth: 4 DEC 1846 in Tuscaloosa Co., AL
Death: 4 DEC 1930 in Ada, Pontotoc Co., OK
Burial: Rosedale Cemetery

Father: Amos Pleasant ROBERTS Sr. b: 1814 in NC
Mother: Mary Adline ANDREWS b: SEP 1824 in Monroe Co., MS

Marriage 1: Mary MADDOX b: 2 DEC 1844

Children:
Willia ROBERTS
John ROBERTS
Lizzie ROBERTS
Pallie ROBERTS
Ellen ROBERTS
Rebecca ROBERTS
Ellis Melvin ROBERTS b: 1 MAR 1881 in Conway Co., AR (click on: Ellis Melvin Roberts.)

Family links:
Spouse:
Mary Jane Maddox Roberts (1844 – 1943)

Children: Ellis Melvin Roberts (1881 – 1967)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial:
Rosedale Cemetery
Ada
Pontotoc County
Oklahoma, USA

Mary Jane Maddox Roberts
Birth: Dec. 2, 1844
New Lexington
Tuscaloosa County
Alabama, USA
Death: Sep. 20, 1943
Oil Center
Pontotoc County
Oklahoma, USA

Father-George Washington Maddox, Husband- Amos Pleasant Roberts Jr.
Children-Charles, Martha Adaline , Elizabeth P.,
James Willis , Rebecca K. , John Henry, Ellen Jane , Ellis Melvin , Louvinnie Pallestine.

Family links:
Spouse:
Amos Pleasant Roberts (1846 – 1930)*

Children: Ellis Melvin Roberts (1881 – 1967)* Louvinnie Pallastine Roberts, Jones (1884 – 1945)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial:
Rosedale Cemetery
Ada
Pontotoc County
Oklahoma, USA
Plot: Roberts

there are pictures on some of the cemetery records.

there is a distinction between heritage and tribal enrollment. all tribes had membership requirements. some natives did not qualify for enrollment or could not prove they qualified for enrollment.

there are a few choctaw tribes.

the MOWA tribe might still be trying to gain recognition.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1940 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed.

you will need to know who the family members were 1830-1930 or so, where they were located. a good way to do this is by census records.
the first time period to concentrate on is 1900-1930 because most tribes enrolled during this period.
federal census records can help you here. you can get access through your local public library – two databases: 1) heritage quest, 2) ancestry.com.

the dawes roll shows the applicants to the five major tribes 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma. if your family applied for this, there would be a census card, dawes application, other supporting documents and testimony. these are located at NARA
http://www.archives.gov
try the fort worth, TX office.

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com. fold3.com is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times, their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet. you can google fold3 and your ancestor’s name to see if your relative’s dawes packet is available at fold3.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on rootsweb.com or ancestry.com.
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try findagrave.com or interment.net. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. ancestry.com and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA (http://www.archives.gov) are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
several helpful links for records in the choctaw territory

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

for those people who do not yet have a card, you should research the 1900-1940 census to know approximate dates of birth, birthplaces, family members. this will also tell you if someone is more likely to be on the freedman roll or as applicants to the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma for the five major tribes.

applicants can be found here:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial names are ok. look at the guide link for explanation of the codes.

when you find a possible name, then click on the card# in the card column to see the family group. if it is your family group, and they were likely enrolled, then you can search the oklahoma historical society’s dawes roll link to get the enrollment #’s for particular family members.
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

if your family was enrolled by council action early in the process or was enrolled by lawsuit, they might not appear on the oklahoma historical society website. you would have to check with the tribe on that.

even if your family was rejected by the dawes process, you may want the testimony, census card, application information for your genealogical purposes.

the federal census will also help you decide which state to contact for vital records.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

freedmen information:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ewyatt/_borders/
http://digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/F/FR016.html
http://www.african-nativeamerican.com/8-chocfreed.htm
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Five_civilized_tribes_in_Oklahoma.html?id=chATAAAAYAAJ
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.
http://www.archives.gov/southwest/finding-aids/native-american-microfilm.html

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA http://www.archives.gov for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23 RECORDS OF THE COMMISSIONER TO THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES 1852-1919
75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/075.html
(Record Group 75)
1793-1989

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
some obituaries:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/obituaries/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southeast tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

about blood quantum laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_quantum_laws
calculations about blood quantum:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wishawa4/Menominee%20Indians/quantum.htm

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
marriage records
http://www.okhistory.org/research/library/marriage.html
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chocmarriageindex.htm

other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html
http://yvwiiusdinvnohii.net/OKTribes.htm

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.
you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/ppcs/ppcs.html
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

april april

posted on May 18, 2013

thank you so much for your help. very helpful post: Minnie’s line can be traced to Amos pleasant roberts jr and mary jane maddox roberts—(mary jane maddox was minnie’s grandma) I have found out that much..other possibilities found :
Name Age Sex Blood Card No. Tribe Roll No.
Lena Jones 1 Female Full Card #560 Choctaw by Blood (New Borns) Roll #542
(no family group when you click on it??) Would have been around the right age—

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on May 18, 2013

Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Jones Charley 0 M NB560 P
Choctaw Jones Luena 0 F NB560 P
Choctaw Jones Lena 1 F FULL NB560 NB542 WISTER NB

NB-newborn
p-parent

this means that the parents had applied for enrollment and then lena was born. so there is another family group for charley jones and luena.

charley/charlie/charles jones is a common name.
the accessgenealogy shows the family group: http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php

it appears that this will be a two-step process. you will have to get lena’s dawes packet and that might give you enough information to find her parents.
you should probably try for the fold3.com website. this is a subscription website but the price of a month’s subscription is less than the cost of a dawes packet.

from the information in lena’s documents, you will probably find clues to the other family group.