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Malcomb Family 1903

Debbie Debbie

posted on September 23, 2010

My great grandmother was Choctaw and lived on the reservation. She met and married a white man who’s last name was Malcomb. They had a son, his name was Havis Redman Malcomb. He was born in 1903. I never met my grandfather he died when I was 1year old. That was 52 years ago. My mother told me she didn’t know her grandmothers name, because her father hardly ever spoke of her. I have a peice of material my great grandmother made for my grandfather that has the times table on it from 1 thru 12. Translated from a white man. The ink used was from ground mustard seed and mashed polk berries.
It is over 120 years old. I would love to learn more about my great grandmother if anyone out there can help me in any way.
Debbie

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on September 23, 2010

? m. ? malcomb
havis redman malcomb/malcolm? b. 1903 OK? d. 1958

since you don’t have many names, you should start with havis redman malcolm. do you have his birth certificate or delayed birth certificate. do you have his death certificate? how about his marriage license.

are you sure havis wasn’t harris?
Household Members:
Name Age
May Malcomb 38
John Malcomb 11
Lloyd Malcomb 8
Haris Malcomb 4
Albert King 19
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Township 4, McCurtain, Oklahoma; Roll T624_1261; Page: 13A; Enumeration District: 183; Image: 1003.

since i don’t know if this is your relative, i have to stop searching.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if

you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if

you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name

and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times

natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were

philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they

were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of

tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that

time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to

live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native

marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card

column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census

records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native

marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.

if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy

advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251)

829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they

don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but

many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also

about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a

different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a

contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me,

shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it

to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto