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Gina Gina

posted on January 20, 2013 and updated on January 20, 2013

My father recently passed away and in his things I found his father’s birth certificate. It list that his father, my great grandfather, was Choctaw. I am having a lot of trouble tracking any more family genealogy after that point on that side of my family.
I think at some time my father and his siblings were registered with the Choctaw. i say this because I remember them argueing about some property in north Mississippi that they got through the Choctaw and my father was upset because his siblings gave it back to the Choctaw or sold it and it had oil on it. This is the only conversation I remember about anything Indian.
My Great Grandmother’s name was Gertrude Barlow and my Great Grandfather’s name was James V Busby, they passed away when my Grandfather was very young. They lived somewhere around Pike, Ms. I am trying to track down more info on my heritage, I want to know more about my Indian background. Any info would be appreciated.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on January 20, 2013

tribes and enrollment are different topics. if your family was in MS, then you should look at mississippi tribes for information. there are tribes in many states, state-recognized and federally-recognized. some tribes are still seeking enrollment.

your family might be mississippi choctaw, link to that tribe is in this post.

james v. busby, no date or location m. gertrude barlow, no date or location.
no children i don’t know in your post.

i don’t know whether you mean pike county, MS or another location. in genealogy, we usually use the county because that is where most of the records are located, such as land records, vital records.

i do not see a census record for someone named gertrude with a last name of busbee or busby who has a husband named james. but i also don’t know what time period you think they were living. native census records were kept 1800-1930 or so by the war department and they are at NARA http://www.archives.gov.
accessgenealogy transcribed those records. see the left hand menu for native census records and native rolls.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
natives were not on the federal census records if they lived on reservation because they were not taxed. the 1900 census was the first one that enumerated all people. natives sometimes were enumerated on the indian population schedule in 1900 but that was the last year that the census records were kept separately at all.

native languages were an oral tradition. they didn’t become written languages until the mid 1800’s. the tribes have no records other than the NARA records.

other possible sources of information:
state or county vital records
county land records, county court records
state archives might have vital records, newspapers, local history books.
historical societies might have similar records as the state archives.
your public library might be able to find historical newspapers, local history books through the interlibrary loan program.

if your family stayed in the southeast reservations, there might be a land grant called choctaw scrip, given to the head of house in lieu of tribal termination. these records are at NARA, through the bureau of land management. there is an index of these records on ancestry.com called mississippi land records and alabama land records. your local public library might have a subscription to ancestry.com.

in order to find such a record, you need more information, specifically location. county land records might help you there. this is because there are several names that are similar.

i don’t know what time period we are talking about.
and the database “mississippi land records” includes scrip land as well as homestead land. you would need to know where the land was located and who was likely to receive it in order to find such a native land grant for your family.

Mississippi Land Records
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View Record Name Land Office Total Acres Issue Date
View Record Ezekiel Busbay WASHINGTON 40 1 Nov 1840
View Record Alexander G Busby JACKSON 78 23 Mar 1901
View Record Criston Busby MT SALUS 40 1 Feb 1840
View Record Daniel Busby JACKSON 79.68 1 Mar 1859
View Record Elijah Busby COLUMBUS 40.24 1 Oct 1859
View Record Ezekiel Busby WASHINGTON 158.76 3 Nov 1859
View Record George W Busby JACKSON 119.79 17 Oct 1904
View Record Hariet L Busby JACKSON 160 3 Jun 1891
View Record James Busby PONTOTOC 160.57 25 Feb 1841
View Record James Busby PONTOTOC 160.57 25 Feb 1841
View Record Jeremiah S Busby JACKSON 80.3 17 Jan 1895
View Record John F Busby AUGUSTA 161.04 5 Jan 1841
View Record Leonard P Busby JACKSON 160 28 Jun 1895
View Record Levi P Busby JACKSON 39.73 1 Jul 1875
View Record Lovick A Busby JACKSON 160.3 12 Jan 1889
View Record Lucreasy Busby MT SALUS 79.97 5 Jan 1831
View Record Margaret E Busby JACKSON 160.32 16 Aug 1890
View Record Marion Busby JACKSON 80.65 24 Jun 1878
View Record Martha Busby JACKSON 40.53 1 May 1906
View Record Matt C Busby JACKSON 126.8 3 Jun 1891
View Record Nathan Busby AUGUSTA 39.82 15 Mar 1854
View Record Powell Busby PONTOTOC 159.94 25 Feb 1841
View Record Sampson Busby JACKSON 120.22 9 Oct 1895
View Record Santford Busby JACKSON 80.65 17 Oct 1904
View Record Sarah G Busby JACKSON 79.19 15 Mar 1898
View Record Shepherd Busby AUGUSTA 80.17 5 Jan 1841
View Record Shepherd Busby AUGUSTA 79.72 1 Sep 1846
View Record Shepherd Busby AUGUSTA 79.72 1 Sep 1846
View Record Shepherd Busby COLUMBUS 39.9 1 May 1860
View Record Shepherd Busby COLUMBUS 39.9 1 May 1860
View Record Sheppard Busby AUGUSTA 80.15 2 May 1859
View Record Spencer Busby AUGUSTA 79.72 1 Sep 1846
View Record Stephen Busby AUGUSTA 80.15 2 Jul 1860
View Record Thomas F Busby JACKSON 153.5 1 May 1906
View Record William M Busby AUGUSTA 40.19 5 Jan 1841
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iew Record Name Land Office Total Acres Issue Date
View Record Andrew G Barlow JACKSON 80 1 May 1906
View Record Briant Barlow AUGUSTA 81.43 1 Nov 1859
View Record Christopher C Barlow JACKSON 158 1 Mar 1859
View Record Cintha J Barlow JACKSON 40.72 7 May 1897
View Record Enoch Barlow JACKSON 120.25 2 May 1891
View Record George W Barlow MT SALUS 119.89 1 Feb 1840
View Record George W Barlow JACKSON 39.97 15 Dec 1854
View Record George W Barlow JACKSON 39.7 1 Mar 1859
View Record George R Barlow JACKSON 80.15 19 Jul 1889
View Record George W Barlow JACKSON 160 21 Dec 1893
View Record George W Barlow JACKSON 80.09 14 Dec 1896
View Record Georgia A Barlow JACKSON 39.02 12 Aug 1901
View Record Henry Barlow MT SALUS 79.83 21 Sep 1835
View Record Henry Barlow MT SALUS 79.93 1 Feb 1840
View Record Henry Barlow AUGUSTA 160.5 1 Sep 1846
View Record Henry Barlow AUGUSTA 79.32 15 Mar 1854
View Record Henry Barlow JACKSON 77.31 1 Dec 1840
View Record Henry Barlow JACKSON 38.58 1 Oct 1851
View Record Henry Barlow JACKSON 115.74 1 Aug 1859
View Record Henry Z Barlow JACKSON 39.97 1 Aug 1859
View Record Henry Z Barlow JACKSON 278.73 1 Aug 1859
View Record Henry H Barlow JACKSON 79.84 1 Oct 1896
View Record James H Barlow COLUMBUS 79.92 1 Oct 1859
View Record John Barlow AUGUSTA 79.39 25 Jul 1826
View Record John Barlow MT SALUS 80 1 Feb 1840
View Record John Barlow MT SALUS 76.66 1 Dec 1840
View Record John Barlow JACKSON 80 1 Dec 1840
View Record John Barlow MT SALUS 38.33 1 Feb 1843
View Record John Barlow MT SALUS 38.27 1 Feb 1843
View Record John W Barlow JACKSON 40.06 25 May 1885
View Record Lucy Barlow JACKSON 156.6 9 Jul 1901
View Record Mary M Barlow JACKSON 283.64 1 Aug 1859
View Record Nathaniel G Barlow JACKSON 80.1 1 Jul 1875
View Record Nathaniel G Barlow JACKSON 39.98 7 Jun 1897
View Record Noah Barlow MT SALUS 160.35 1 Dec 1840
View Record Noah Barlow MT SALUS 560.7 1 Dec 1840
View Record Norril Barlow JACKSON 39.97 1 Mar 1859
View Record Norvil Barlow JACKSON 40.45 15 Dec 1854
View Record Samuel N Barlow AUGUSTA 40 5 Jan 1841
View Record Samuel N Barlow AUGUSTA 80 5 Jan 1841
View Record Sarah E Barlow JACKSON 159.62 12 Apr 1893
View Record Wiley Barlow JACKSON 39.97 3 Jun 1906
View Record William J Barlow JACKSON 117.28 1 Aug 1859
View Record William J Barlow JACKSON 200.03 1 Aug 1859
View Record William B Barlow JACKSON 38.33 1 Aug 1859
View Record Wyatt C Barlow JACKSON 160 21 Feb 1890

this is the type of information in the index:

Mississippi Land Records about Samuel N Barlow
Name: Samuel N Barlow
Land Office: AUGUSTA
Document Number: 1582
Total Acres: 80
Signature: Yes
Canceled Document: No
Issue Date: 5 Jan 1841
Mineral Rights Reserved: No
Metes and Bounds: No
Statutory Reference: 3 Stat. 566
Multiple Warantee Names: No
Act or Treaty: April 24, 1820
Multiple Patentee Names: Yes
Entry Classification: Sale-Cash Entries
Remarks: GEORGE HOLLEY
Land Description:
1 E½SE ST STEPHENS No 7S 8W 2
United States, Bureau of Land Management. Mississippi Land Records [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 1997.
Original data: United States, Bureau of Land Management. Mississippi Pre-1908 Patents: Homesteads, Cash Entry, Choctaw Indian Scrip and Chickasaw Cession Lands. General Land Office Automated Records Project, 1997.

so, start with what you know, gather documents, then go backward in time.
this means you should get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates, marriage license, death certificates. find your family in census records 1900-1940 first.
then find your family in census records 1830-1900.
the 1890 census was largely destroyed but maybe there is an 1890 civil war veterans record.

the census records 1850 and later enumerate all family members. the census records before that often only list the head of household.

cemetery records are useful, give you date of birth, date of death and place of death. try findagrave.com and interment.net online. if you contact the cemetery, they might be able to tell you more, such as who was buried near them, any next of kin.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1940 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed.

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com. fold3.com is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet, however check with accessgenealogy’s database to see if your relative’s dawes packet is exists or is available at fold3.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/dawes.php?s_last=green&s_first=mart&s_middle=&s_tribe=
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on rootsweb.com or ancestry.com.
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try findagrave.com or interment.net. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. ancestry.com and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA (http://www.archives.gov) are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
several helpful links for records in the choctaw territory

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

for those people who do not yet have a card, you should research the 1900-1940 census to know approximate dates of birth, birthplaces, family members. this will also tell you if someone is more likely to be on the freedman roll or as applicants to the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma for the five major tribes.

applicants can be found here:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial names are ok. look at the guide link for explanation of the codes.

when you find a possible name, then click on the card# in the card column to see the family group. if it is your family group, and they were likely enrolled, then you can search the oklahoma historical society’s dawes roll link to get the enrollment #’s for particular family members.
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

if your family was enrolled by council action early in the process or was enrolled by lawsuit, they might not appear on the oklahoma historical society website. you would have to check with the tribe on that.

even if your family was rejected by the dawes process, you may want the testimony, census card, application information for your genealogical purposes.

the federal census will also help you decide which state to contact for vital records.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

freedmen information:
many freedmen links on this webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ewyatt/_borders/

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Five_civilized_tribes_in_Oklahoma.html?id=chATAAAAYAAJ
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.
http://www.archives.gov/southwest/finding-aids/native-american-microfilm.html

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA http://www.archives.gov for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23 RECORDS OF THE COMMISSIONER TO THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES 1852-1919
75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/075.html
(Record Group 75)
1793-1989

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
some obituaries:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/obituaries/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

about blood quantum laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_quantum_laws
calculations about blood quantum:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wishawa4/Menominee%20Indians/quantum.htm

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
marriage records
http://www.okhistory.org/research/library/marriage.html
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chocmarriageindex.htm

other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html
http://yvwiiusdinvnohii.net/OKTribes.htm

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.
you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/ppcs/ppcs.html
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto