Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma

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Kathryn (Catherine) Conwell Hatch

Elizabeth Hatch Reichert Elizabeth Hatch Reichert

posted on November 24, 2012

We have been told that my grandmother Kathryn (Catherine) Conwell Hatch was Native American, born Jan 17, 1913 in Tupelo, OK, and possibly adopted (and possibly her brother too) by my great grandfather Doctor Augie (Augustine? Augustus??) Cornelius Conwell and his wife Ora Young Conwell. I also read that “Augie” may have taken an Native American common-law wife prior to his marriage to Ora.

Yesterday, I came across the listings in the Choctaw Nation Marriage Index of the marriage of (groom) A C Conwell, age 28, to (Bride) Sosa Lawrence, age 15, on February 15, 1901 AND of the marriage of (groom) A C Conwell, age 31, to (Bride) Ora Blount, age 26, on October 23rd, 1902. All lived in Owl (Hoot Owl?), OK at the time of the marriages.

So, I wonder if one or both of the A C Conwells are my great grandfather Augie Cornelius Conwell, and if the listings on the Choctaw Nation Marriage Index signifies Choctaw heritage of either of the brides, and if maybe Kathryn (Catherine) was the daughter of A C and Sosa and “adopted” by A C and Ora? Or vise-versa? Or not?

Interestingly, Kathryn grew to marry my grandfather True Bradford Hatch who’s grandmother was the daughter of a Navajo Chief(paternal) and the granddaughter of a Piute Chief (maternal). She, Katheryn, told my father and his siblings often that she was Native American but never mentioned which tribe. Unfortunately, Katheryn died while my father was quite young, the year as of yet unknown…

Any input would be greatly appreciated…

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on November 25, 2012

her social security application and delayed birth certificate would disclose her parents’ names. you should find out the volume and page # of the marriage, so that you can get contact information in order to get a copy of the marriage certificates.
1895 – 1907

COPYRIGHT 27 APR 1992 Mary Kinard

Printed here with the Permission of J.D. Kinard and family for your personal use


FIVE FEDERAL COURTHOUSES IN CHOCTAW NATION AT – ATOKA, ATOKA CO. OK, get copy of marriage from LDS Library BR – DURANT, BRYAN CO. OK. get copy of marriage from Durant Lf – POTEAU, LEFLORE CO. OK get copy of marriage from Poteau Mc – McALESTER, PITSBURY CO. OK get copy of marriage from Indian Archives OKC WIL – WILBURTON, LATIMER CO. OK you may be able to get copy from Muskogee Ok CODES USED un – NOT USED nr – NO RETURN er – ERROR col – COLORED

CONWELL, A C 31 BLOUNT, ORA 26 23 OCT 1902 OWL AT2©194

CONWELL, A C 28 LAWRENCE, SOSA 15 13 FEB 1901 OWL AT1©488©976

AT – LDS Library
35 North West Temple St.
Salt Lake City, Utah 84150-3400
Phone 801-240-2364 or 810-240-2331
Fax – 801-240-5551

this is an atoka area marriage, so i don’t know if there is a better source.

you should try the cemeteries around this area also.

you can also try this:
Atoka County Recorder Office – Birth, Death, Marriage & Divorce Records

Atoka County
200 . Court St
Atoka, OK 74525
Hours of Operation: 8:30AM-4:30PM CST
Phone: 580-889-5157
Fax: 580-889-5063
Real Estate: 580-889-5157
Assessor: 580-889-6036
Treasurer: 580-889-5283
Elections: 580-889-5297
Recording Officer: County Clerk
Assessor Fax: 580-889-5081

and the oklahoma historical society and the oklahoma state archives.

oklahoma became a state November 16, 1907 and was called indian territory before that date. government services were through territorial services, such as forts. this is why you might see a marriage listed as choctaw. some people did travel to arkansas and texas to get married also, but apparently your possible relatives did not.

there might be newspaper mentions, so check with your local public library/interlibrary loan for access. state historical societies and state archives also have historical newspapers.

since a possible adoption occurred after oklahoma became a state, contact the county clerk to see if there was any paperwork for the family. many times adoptions were informal at this time, which doesn’t help you very much. but the delayed birth certificate would give you more information.

1920 United States Federal Census about Tody Conwell
Name: Tody Conwell
[Tody Connell]
Age: 7
Birth Year: abt 1913
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Home in 1920: La Jara, Sandoval, New Mexico
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Cornelius A Conwell
Father’s Birthplace: Alabama
Mother’s Name: Ora Conwell
Mother’s Birthplace: Texas
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Cornelius A Conwell 46
Ora Conwell 40
Neal Conwell 17
Bridge Conwell 14
Gechi Conwell 9
Tody Conwell 7
Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: La Jara, Sandoval, New Mexico; Roll: T625_1079; Page: 16B; Enumeration District: 106; Image: 630.
you can correct the name index on for this record so that others can find your relatives.

cornelius is listed as a farmer and his wife is listed as a teacher.

buddy and tody were b. OK but neal and the other person was b. TX. usually natives who came through TX were mississippi choctaw and not likely enrolled. also, cornelius was b. AL, which also indicates a late migration from possible native areas, so he might also be mississippi choctaw or MOWA. see the links in this post about that. many natives did not apply for enrollment in the choctaw tribe in OK. maybe they were philosophically opposed to enrollment or maybe they didn’t qualify for membership in the tribe.

i see a conwell family that had applied to the choctaw tribe but they were listed as mississippi choctaw. i do not know if they are related. i do not see that they were enrolled in the tribe. i see no blount surnames on the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in the state of oklahoma.

1930 United States Federal Census about Catherine Conway
Name: Catherine Conway
[Catherine Conwell]
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1913
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Race: White
Home in 1930: Regina, Sandoval, New Mexico
View Map
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father’s Name: A C Conway
Father’s Birthplace: Texas
Mother’s Name: Ora Conway
Mother’s Birthplace: Missouri


Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
A C Conway 63
Ora Conway 53
Ovena Conway 20
Catherine Conway 17
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Regina, Sandoval, New Mexico; Roll: 1398; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 26; Image: 259.0; FHL microfilm: 2341133.
notice how the parents’ birth information changed in this census.

U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Aug Conelius Conwell
Name: Aug Conelius Conwell
County: Sandoval
State: New Mexico
Birth Date: 20 Nov 1874
Race: White

1900 United States Federal Census about A C Connwell
Name: A C Connwell
Age: 29
Birth Date: abt 1871
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1900: Township 1, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Race: White
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 1, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: 1852; ; Enumeration District: 0103; FHL microfilm: 1241852.
might be page 125A or 16A, township 1N range 9E, enumeration district 103
although he is listed on the indian population schedule, no heritage information is given for him. this means that he lived in a native area but was not claiming he was native. since he is a boarder, though, that might have been the opinion of one of the other people who gave information to the census enumerator.
he is listed as a physician.

but this might be rosa lawrence’s family:
Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Falata 0 M 3961 P
Choctaw Falata Siney 0 F 3961 P
Choctaw Lawrence David 0 M 3961 P
Choctaw Lawrence Mary 0 F 3961 P
Choctaw Lawrence Rosa A 12 F 5/8 3961 NR OWL BB
Choctaw Lawrence Nellie 38 F FULL 3961 NR OWL BB
Choctaw Lawrence Silas 58 M 1/4 3961 NR OWL BB
bb=by blood

1900 United States Federal Census about Ora Blount
Name: Ora Blount
Age: 24
Birth Date: abt 1876
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1900: Township 1, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Parent’s Name: Sarah C Blount
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah C Blount 49
Ora Blount 24
James A Young 21
Samuel E Young 15
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 1, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: 1852; ; Enumeration District: 0103; FHL microfilm: 1241852.

whatever is on your grandmother’s birth certificate would be what would legally be considered her parents. when social security came into effect 1/1/1937 people had to show proof of age to apply. many people submitted delayed birth certificates to satisfy this requirement. you can get a copy of the social security application by filing a SS-5.

it might also be useful, if rosa lawrence is established as her parent, to get a copy of ora conwell’s social security application and delayed birth certificate.

the state where they were born, vital records office, would be the county office to contact for a birth certificate or delayed birth certificate. ask for both.

in order to be eligible for tribal membership with the choctaw tribe of oklahoma, you would have to be directly related to an original enrollee of the tribe. for tribal affiliation (a different topic) you should look at where your family lived 1830-1930 or so and see if there were any tribes near them and check with those tribes.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1940 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed.

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:

social security application for a deceased person:
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet, however check with accessgenealogy’s database to see if your relative’s dawes packet is exists or is available at fold3.
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on or
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try or ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA ( are transcribed at accessgenealogy.
several helpful links for records in the choctaw territory

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

for those people who do not yet have a card, you should research the 1900-1940 census to know approximate dates of birth, birthplaces, family members. this will also tell you if someone is more likely to be on the freedman roll or as applicants to the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma for the five major tribes.

applicants can be found here:
partial names are ok. look at the guide link for explanation of the codes.

when you find a possible name, then click on the card# in the card column to see the family group. if it is your family group, and they were likely enrolled, then you can search the oklahoma historical society’s dawes roll link to get the enrollment #’s for particular family members.

if your family was enrolled by council action early in the process or was enrolled by lawsuit, they might not appear on the oklahoma historical society website. you would have to check with the tribe on that.

even if your family was rejected by the dawes process, you may want the testimony, census card, application information for your genealogical purposes.

the federal census will also help you decide which state to contact for vital records.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment

freedmen information:
many freedmen links on this webpage:

2 ways to search:
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
other resources are NARA

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
(Record Group 75)
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
some obituaries:

NARA federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

about blood quantum laws:
calculations about blood quantum:

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:

MOWA tribe
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail:

other choctaw tribes:

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
oklahoma historical society
marriage records

other historical societies:
some oklahoma genealogical societies:

texas tribes

oklahoma tribes:

some links for the choctaw.
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
see the menu at left. you can download it.
you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page

and this might be of interest to you:
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Elizabeth Hatch Reichert Elizabeth Hatch Reichert

posted on November 25, 2012

Thank you! You have given us much to work with!!

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on November 25, 2012
this has a picture of augie and some family history.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on November 25, 2012
this has a picture of augie and some family history.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on November 25, 2012 and updated on November 25, 2012
this has a picture of augie and some family history.

it appears to me that this person wants to know what happened to the family.

you should contact anyone who posts about your family, share information.