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Sara Wiggins Meadows

Emily Schubert Emily Schubert

posted on September 12, 2012

Hello! Looking for any information on Sara Wiggins Meadows my great great grandmother who may be Choctaw. She married an Irishman named James Meadows and had a daughter Gertrude Williams who had my grandpa Clarence Williams. I am seriously lacking any more details and not sure where to go next.
Thanks for your time
Emily Schubert

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on September 12, 2012

sara wiggins m. james meadows
gertrude meadows m. ? williams
clarence williams

awes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Meadows Jim 0 M MCR2237 P
Choctaw Meadows Sarah 0 F MCR2237 P
Choctaw Underwood J A 0 M MCR2237 P
Choctaw Underwood Florence Alice 6 F 1/16 MCR2237 MCR
Choctaw Underwood Tabitha 9 F 1/16 MCR2237 MCR
Choctaw Underwood Nora 13 F 1/16 MCR2237 MCR
Choctaw Underwood Mary L 47 F 1/3 MCR2237 MCR
p=parent
MCR=mississippi choctaw refused. a few mississippi choctaw were enrolled under choctaw council action or by lawsuit.

it would appear that mary might be a sister of gertrude.

because your post lacks location and dates, i cannot be sure where to find records.

maybe this is your family.

James Henry Meadows
Birth 1853 in Alabama, United States
Death 22 Apr 1925 in Walker Co., Al. Buried: Zion Ch. of Christ Cem.
1853

Birth
Alabama, United States

5 source citations
1870
Age: 17

Residence
Township 16 Range 5, Talladega, Alabama, United States

1 source citation
1880
Age: 27

Residence
Rome, Tallapoosa, Alabama, United States

1 source citation
1910
Age: 57

Residence
Good Spring, Walker, Alabama

1 source citation
1920
Age: 67

Residence
Jasper, Walker, Alabama

1 source citation
1920
Age: 67

Residence
Jasper, Walker, Alabama

1 source citation
1925 22 Apr
Age: 72

Death
Walker Co., Al. Buried: Zion Ch. of Christ Cem.

1 source citation

Residence
Goodsprings, Alabama

Spouse & Children

SARAH SALLY WIGGINS 1854 – 1935 Nat Meadows 1862 – Larra Meadows 1867 – Sam Meadows 1873 – Daniel Meadows 1876 – Elizabeth Meadows 1878 – 1912 JUDGE MARION MEADOWS 1879 – GERTIE MAE MEADOWS 1881 – 1963 Mansel Meadows 1891 – George Meadows 1895 –

GERTIE MAE MEADOWS
Birth 16 Nov 1881 in AL.
Death 11 Aug 1963 in Walker Co., AL. Buried: Zion Cemetery, Parrish, AL.

you might see why i am getting different information. these are common names.

these are the # of records for gert/gertrude/gertie williams.

Census & Voter Lists 10,897
2,162 1930 United States Federal Census
2,030 1920 United States Federal Census
1,973 1940 United States Federal Census
1,707 1910 United States Federal Census
1,113 1900 United States Federal Census
» View all 10,897 results
Birth, Marriage & Death 8,437
1,242 Social Security Death Index
910 United States Obituary Collection
286 North Carolina, Birth and Death Indexes, 1800-2000
234 Arkansas, County Marriages Index, 1837-1957
222 Missouri Marriage Records, 1805-2002
» View all 8,437 results

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1940 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed.

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com. fold3.com is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet, however check with accessgenealogy’s database to see if your relative’s dawes packet is exists or is available at fold3.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/dawes.php?s_last=green&s_first=mart&s_middle=&s_tribe=
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on rootsweb.com or ancestry.com.
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try findagrave.com or interment.net. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. ancestry.com and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA (http://www.archives.gov) are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Five_civilized_tribes_in_Oklahoma.html?id=chATAAAAYAAJ
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.
http://www.archives.gov/southwest/finding-aids/native-american-microfilm.html

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA http://www.archives.gov for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23 RECORDS OF THE COMMISSIONER TO THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES 1852-1919
75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/075.html
(Record Group 75)
1793-1989

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
some obituaries:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/obituaries/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

about blood quantum laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_quantum_laws
calculations about blood quantum:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wishawa4/Menominee%20Indians/quantum.htm

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
marriage records
http://www.okhistory.org/research/library/marriage.html
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chocmarriageindex.htm

other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.
you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/ppcs/ppcs.html
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Ma Hook Ma Hook

posted on September 20, 2012

1860 US Federal Census, Cleveland County, North Carolina
Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1860 United States Federal Census [database on-line], Provo, UT, USA.

Original data: 1860 U.S. census, population schedule. NARA microfilm publication M653, 1,438 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.

Name: Sarah S. Wiggins
Age 6
born abt. 1854
Birthplace: North Carolina
Home in 1860: Cleveland, North Carolina
Father: William Wiggins age 40
Mother Sophia Wiggins age 37
Sarah S. Wiggins age 6
Amanda L. Wiggins age 2
(other family named Ripley living in the same household not listed here)

They lived next door to another Wiggins family
Biney (F) age 63
Richard (M) age 22
Sarah (F) age 24
Francis (M) age 32
Asberry (M) age 20

Retrieved through Ancestry.com
on 9/20/2012 by Ma Hook

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on September 21, 2012

if they were enumerated in a federal census, they lived off-reservation. the only people who were not on the federal census were natives living on reservation because they were not taxed.

if the family lived in AL, you should look at the location to find out about nearby tribes. you might contact the mississippi choctaw and the MOWA.

there were some burials of their children in AL.
View Record Name Birth Date Death Date Death Place Parent Name
Record James Daniel Meadows abt 1875 17 Jun 1951 Jasper, Walker, Alabama Henry Meadows,
Sarah Wiggins
View Record Judge M Meadows abt 1880 28 Jan 1963 Jasper, Walker, Alabama Henry Meadows,
Sara Wiggins
View Record Edward D Meadows abt 1894 4 Jan 1974 Jasper, Walker, Alabama J M Meadows,
Sarah Wiggins
View Record George Meadows abt 1902 12 Jul 1958 Jasper, Walker, Alabama Henry Meadows,
Sara Wiggins
Record Nancy Emilie Parker abt 1884 13 Jul 1940 Jasper, Walker, Alabama Henry Meadows,
Sarah Wiggins

this database is on ancestry.com alabama deaths and burials.

the difficulty with the MOWA petition before the BIA was that tribal members could not document the native ancestry before the civil war, that only 1% of the members could document that they were associated with the choctaw tribe. however, the MOWA tribe may have received state recognition.

i do not know why your family moved from NC to AL.

Alabama, Deaths and Burials Index, 1881-1974 about Sarah Meadows
Name: Sarah Meadows
[Sarah Wiggins]
Birth Date: abt 1855
Death Date: 14 Jun 1934
Death Place: Parish (Calumet), Walker, Alabama
Death Age: 79
Marital Status: Married
Gender: Female
Father Name: Wiggins
Mother Name: Tubbs
Spouse Name: J M Meadows
FHL Film Number: 1908521

it appears that her mother’s maiden name might have been tubbs.

you should look at the census card, enrollment application and testimony of the children that applied for enrollment to the choctaw tribe in indian territory/oklahoma. it might give you some information about sarah.

Alabama Deaths, 1908-59 about Sarah Meadows
Name: Sarah Meadows
Death Date: Jun 1934
Death County: Walker
Volume: 29
Roll: 3
Page #: 14499

this death certificate says amanda’s mother is sofie hard.

North Carolina, Death Certificates, 1909-1975 about Amandy Stacy
Name: Amandy Stacy
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 69
Birth Date: 16 May 1858
Birth Place: Cleveland
Death Date: 13 Aug 1927
Death Location: # 8, Cleveland
Father’s Name: William Wiggins
Mother’s Name: Saly Hard

1850 United States Federal Census about Richard M Wiggins
Name: Richard M Wiggins
Age: 10
Birth Year: abt 1840
Birthplace: North Carolina
Home in 1850: Cleveland, North Carolina
Gender: Male
Family Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Augustus Wiggins 46
Lavinia Wiggins 47
Delily Wiggins 17
Elizah Wiggins 15
Anna Wiggins 13
Sally Wiggins 11
Richard M Wiggins 10
Asbury G Wiggins 8
Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: , Cleveland, North Carolina; Roll: M432_625; Page: 118A; Image: 239.

this might be sophia:

1850 United States Federal Census about Sophia Horn
Name: Sophia Horn
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1827
Birthplace: North Carolina
Home in 1850: Cleveland, North Carolina
Gender: Female
Family Number: 119
Household Members:
Name Age
John Horn 34
Margaret Horn 60
Sophia Horn 23
Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: , Cleveland, North Carolina; Roll: M432_625; Page: 124B; Image: 252.

margaret might be john and sophia’s mother.

North Carolina, Death Certificates, 1909-1975 about Lemuel J Wiggins
Name: Lemuel J Wiggins
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 88
Birth Date: 31 Mar 1861
Birth Place: North Carolina, United States
Death Date: 3 Oct 1949
Death Location: 6, Cleveland
Father’s Name: William Wiggins
Mother’s Name: Sophia Horn
Residence: Cleveland, North Carolina

1880 United States Federal Census about L. J. Wiggins
Name: L. J. Wiggins
Age: 18
Birth Year: abt 1862
Birthplace: North Carolina
Home in 1880: Double Shoals, Cleveland, North Carolina
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Wm. Wiggins
Father’s Birthplace: North Carolina
Mother’s Name: Sophia Wiggins
Mother’s Birthplace: North Carolina
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: In School
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm. Wiggins 53
Sophia Wiggins 53
Amanda Wiggins 19
L. J. Wiggins 18
Nancy Grigg 67
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Double Shoals, Cleveland, North Carolina; Roll: 959; Family History Film: 1254959; Page: 610A; Enumeration District: 073; Image: 0103.