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Rachel Catherine Callie Parrish

Chrissy K Chrissy K

posted on September 3, 2012 and updated on September 5, 2012

Years ago my father showed a picture to me of my great-great grandmother, and I have always remembered this. She is not on the Dawes Rolls since she died approximately 1880, but according to records, she was born in March 1827 in or around Webster, Mississppi and was a Choctaw who married my great-great grandfather. I found that her father was Samuel Parrish from North Carolina, but I have not other information. I was wondering if anyone could help me with any information other than what I have, please. Thank you.

Since you posted your comment the other day, it was helpful, and I thank you. This may be a bit more information in order to help guide me in the correct direction, or see if I am moving that way. I believe my great-great grandmother, Rachel Catherine Callie Pharrish may have truly spelled her last name – maiden – as PHARIS, and actually her father was John C Pharis (not Samuel Parrish), possibly. Additionally, there were two marriages. The first marriage she had was to Robert Johnson, I believe, and the second was to Hugh Watson Long. Therefore, yes….she was married as you suggested. You have helped, thank you.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on September 4, 2012

who did she marry? who were her children? where were they born? did any of her children apply for tribal enrollment?

she was only a parrish/parish for the first few years of her life but had a different name after marriage. so this makes it more difficult to find her in records.

there are a few records on ancestry.com family records.

Rachel Catherine Callie Parrish
Birth 9 Mar 1827 in Choctaw now, Webster, Mississippi, United States
Death Jan 1880 in Missouri, Nevada, Arkansas, United States

Hugh Watson Long 1831 – 1900 Martha Long 1853 – Sarah Luthra Long 1854 – Sarah E Long 1856 – Catherine Flora Seala Long 1859 – 1880 James O Long 1859 – Watson Lee Long 1862 – 1862 John James A Long 1863 – 1930 William B. Long 1865 – Robert Hector Long 1866 – 1933 Wayman Long 1869 – Wiley Long 1872 –

U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules, 1850-1885 about Catherine Long
Name: Catherine Long
Gender: Female
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Place of Birth: Mississippi
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Age: 52
Month of Death: Jan
Cause of Death: Paralysis
Census Year: 1880
Census Location: (City, County, State)
Redland, Nevada, Arkansas
Enumeration District: 213
Line: 8

1870 United States Federal Census about R C Long
Name: R C Long
Age in 1870: 43
Birth Year: abt 1827
Birthplace: Mississippi
Home in 1870: Caddo, Clark, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Female
Post Office: Arkadelphia
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
H W Long 39
R C Long 43
Sarah E Long 16
Catharine F Long 23
James O Long 10
William B Long 5
Robert H Long 5
Wayman H Long 2
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Caddo, Clark, Arkansas; Roll: M593_49; Page: 240A; Image: 477; Family History Library Film: 545548.

just looking at the sources cited in other peoples’ family trees.

this census says wayman was b. MS, so the migration to AR was just before the census.

1860 United States Federal Census about Catharine Long
Name: Catharine Long
Age in 1860: 33
Birth Year: abt 1827
Birthplace: Mississippi
Home in 1860: Police District 5, Carroll, Mississippi
Gender: Female
Post Office: Emory
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Watson Long 29
Catharine Long 33
John Johnson 13
Amanda Johnson 11
Martha Long 7
Luthra Long 5
Flora Long 3
Jimmie Long 7/12
Oliver Mcvoy 22
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Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Police District 5, Carroll, Mississippi; Roll: M653_578; Page: 885; Image: 380; Family History Library Film: 803578.

1850 United States Federal Census about Watson Long
Name: Watson Long
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1830
Birthplace: North Carolina
Home in 1850: Subdivision 23, Choctaw, Mississippi
Gender: Male
Family Number: 747
Household Members:
Name Age
John Long 50
Dicy Long 47
Watson Long 20
Mary Long 14
Sophia Long 11
John Long 10
Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Subdivision 23, Choctaw, Mississippi; Roll: M432_370; Page: 94B; Image: 195.

did she marry a johnson before she married long?

was she a slave?
these might be reasons that you cannot find some records.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1940 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed.

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com. fold3.com is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet, however check with accessgenealogy’s database to see if your relative’s dawes packet is exists or is available at fold3.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/dawes.php?s_last=green&s_first=mart&s_middle=&s_tribe=
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on rootsweb.com or ancestry.com.
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try findagrave.com or interment.net. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. ancestry.com and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA (http://www.archives.gov) are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Five_civilized_tribes_in_Oklahoma.html?id=chATAAAAYAAJ
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.
http://www.archives.gov/southwest/finding-aids/native-american-microfilm.html

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA http://www.archives.gov for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23 RECORDS OF THE COMMISSIONER TO THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES 1852-1919
75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/075.html
(Record Group 75)
1793-1989

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
some obituaries:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/obituaries/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

about blood quantum laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_quantum_laws
calculations about blood quantum:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wishawa4/Menominee%20Indians/quantum.htm

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
marriage records
http://www.okhistory.org/research/library/marriage.html
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chocmarriageindex.htm

other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.
you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/ppcs/ppcs.html
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Jan Hutchison West Jan Hutchison West

posted on June 14, 2013

Rachel Catharine Pharis Johnson Long is my ggg grandmother. My line is through her son with first husband Robert Johnson, John Benjamin Johnson’s line. I would like to hear from you cousin Chrissy K, or any other cousins from this line. I do have some info concerning the MS Choctaw history of this family.
Jan Hutchison West

Chrissy K Chrissy K

posted on October 2, 2013

Would love to hear from you, and I do apologize for the delay (circumstances of my own). I am not sure where you are, but today is Wednesday and I am leaving for Oklahoma this Friday. I will be there until the 11th without much access to the internet, but I will check if I do not hear from you before then or when I return. My father was thru Robert Hector Long, son of Hugh Watson Long.

Chrissy K Chrissy K

posted on October 2, 2013

Oh, and by the way…it is so good to meet you and know I have a cousin I never knew I did…I am so so happy!! Glad you found me!

Jan Hutchison West Jan Hutchison West

posted on January 29

Chrissy,
Oh my, I just now came back to this Choctaw Nation website after so long and found your reply! I’m so very happy you wrote back! A new cousin from the Pharis line! Please reply in the future to my email at Janwest10@aol.com. I think that will make it easier to keep up with each other.
I have a photo of Rachel Catharine with her young son Willie taken about 1874 that I got from another cousin. I would love to share this with you and see if it is the same as the one your father showed you as a girl.
Jan