Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma

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Dr. Melvin Marx closed adoption

Kambria Kinder Kambria Kinder

posted on June 25, 2012 and updated on July 3, 2012

My mother was born in 1960 in Clarksville Tx. She was given up for adoption because she was the result of an alleged affair between a Dr.Marx and an indian woman from the Red River area. Any information would help. This is the only way I have in learning my family history.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on June 25, 2012

there are post-adoption services that might be able to help you with your heritage by providing information about your maternal grandmother.

you can explain that you want to know about your heritage and possible tribal enrollment.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:

social security application for a deceased person:
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet, however check with accessgenealogy’s database to see if your relative’s dawes packet is exists or is available at fold3.
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on or
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try or ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA ( are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment

2 ways to search:
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
other resources are NARA

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
(Record Group 75)
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
some obituaries:

NARA federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

about blood quantum laws:
calculations about blood quantum:

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:

MOWA tribe
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail:

other choctaw tribes:

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
oklahoma historical society
marriage records

other historical societies:
some oklahoma genealogical societies:

texas tribes

oklahoma tribes:

some links for the choctaw.
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
see the menu at left. you can download it.

you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page

and this might be of interest to you:
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on June 26, 2012

i don’t know if this would help.
Found 1 reference(s) for Melvin Jr. Marx
Reference: Tex. Med., 71:108-109, Aug., 1975. Port.

Name: Melvin Jr. Marx
Year of Birth: 1909
Year of Death: 1975

Social Security Death Index about Melvin Marx
Name: Melvin Marx
SSN: 455-76-5907
Last Residence: 75426 Clarksville, Red River, Texas, United States of America
Born: 19 Jul 1909
Died: Apr 1975
State (Year) SSN issued: Texas (1962)

Texas Death Index, 1903-2000 about Melvin Marx Jr
Name: Melvin Marx Jr
Death Date: 1 Apr 1975
Death County: Red River
Gender: Male

there might be an obituary in a local newspaper. see interlibrary loan/your public library to get a copy.

JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry (JOWBR) about Melvin, M.D., Jr. Marx
Name: Melvin, M.D., Jr. Marx
Birth Date: 19 Jul 1909
Death Date: 1 Apr 1975
Age at Death: 65
Burial Place: Clarksville, Texas, United States
Cemetery: Clarksville
Cemetery Burials: 29

this might be a child with his wife:

Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997 about Melvin III Marx
Name: Melvin III Marx
Date of Birth: 13 Oct 1940
Gender: Male
Birth County: Red River
Father’s Name: Melvin Marx Jr.
Mother’s name: Frances Christine Hoberer
Roll Number: 1940_0005

1930 United States Federal Census about Melvin Marx
Name: Melvin Marx
[Mevin Marx]
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1910
Birthplace: Texas
Race: White
Home in 1930: Clarksville, Red River, Texas
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Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s Name: Melvin Marx
Father’s Birthplace: Louisiana
Mother’s name: Pearl Marx
Mother’s Birthplace: Louisiana


Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Melvin Marx 44
Pearl Marx 44
Melvin Marx 20
Jerrold Marx 15
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Clarksville, Red River, Texas; Roll: 2385; Page: 10B; Enumeration District: 4; Image: 595.0; FHL microfilm: 2342119.

1920 United States Federal Census about Melvin Marx Jr.
Name: Melvin Marx Jr.
Age: 10
Birth Year: abt 1910
Birthplace: Louisiana
Home in 1920: Clarksville, Red River, Texas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Melvin Marx
Father’s Birthplace: Louisiana
Mother’s name: Pearl Marx
Mother’s Birthplace: Texas
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Melvin Marx 34
Pearl Marx 33
Melvin Marx 10
Jerrald Marx 5
Isadore Silberberg 70
Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Clarksville, Red River, Texas; Roll: T625_1841; Page: 23A; Enumeration District: 145; Image: 182.

Arkansas, County Marriages Index, 1837-1957 about Melvin Marx
Name: Melvin Marx
Age: 25
Birth Year: abt 1910
Residence: Ozark, Franklin, Arkansas
Spouse’s Name: Frances Haberer
Spouse’s Age: 23
Spouse’s Residence: Ozark, Franklin, Arkansas
Marriage Date: 3 Jun 1935
Marriage License Date: 1 Jun 1935
Marriage County: Sebastian
Event Type: Marriage
FHL Film Number: 2133690

1910 United States Federal Census about Melvin Marx Jr
Name: Melvin Marx Jr
[Melvin W Marx Jr]
Age in 1910: 9/12
Birth Year: abt 1910
Birthplace: Louisiana
Home in 1910: New Orleans Ward 12, Orleans, Louisiana
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Grandson
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Harold Marx
Father’s Birthplace: Louisiana
Mother’s name: Pearl Marx
Mother’s Birthplace: Texas
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Alphonse Marx 35
Henrietta Marx 49
Melvin Marx 25
Birdye Marx 19
Berenice Marx 13
Harold Marx 18
Pearl Marx 25
Melvin Marx Jr 9/12
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: New Orleans Ward 12, Orleans, Louisiana; Roll: T624_524; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 0202; Image: 340; FHL microfilm: 1374537.

1900 United States Federal Census about Melvin Marx
Name: Melvin Marx
Age: 15
Birth Date: Feb 1885
Birthplace: Louisiana
Home in 1900: New Orleans Ward 10, Orleans, Louisiana
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Alphonse Marx
Father’s Birthplace: Germany
Mother’s name: Henrietta Marx
Mother’s Birthplace: Louisiana
Occupation: View on Image
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Household Members:
Name Age
Alphonse Marx 42
Henrietta Marx 36
Arthur Marx 16
Harold Marx 8
Melvin Marx 15
Carrie Marx 18
Birdie Marx 9
Ruby Marx 17
Berenice Marx 3
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: New Orleans Ward 10, Orleans, Louisiana; Roll: 574; Page: 19B; Enumeration District: 104; FHL microfilm: 1240574.

after all, there were two parents.