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Minnie Smith b.1888 AR info

Ashfrye34 Ashfrye34

posted on June 14, 2012

Hello,

Trying to locate info on gr gr grandmother she was married in Choctaw nation 1904 I have her marriage license to Lester Tomlinson. I’m trying to confirm she is Choctaw Indian. Any help would be much appreciated. She was born 1888 Arkansas in seiver county and then moved to Oklahoma Indian territory.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on June 15, 2012

minnie smith b. 1888 AR m. lester tomlinson

1910 United States Federal Census about Lester Tamlinson
Name: Lester Tamlinson
[Lester Tomlinson]
Age in 1910: 26
Birth Year: 1884
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Home in 1910: Wilson, Atoka, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Minnie Tamlinson
Father’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother’s Birthplace: Alabama
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Lester Tamlinson 26
Minnie Tamlinson 22
Mattie Tamlinson 4
Ola Tamlinson 2
Jessie Tamlinson 8/12
0
Andrew Tamlinson 21
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Wilson, Atoka, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1242; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 0011; Image: 1139; FHL microfilm: 1375255.

1910 United States Federal Census about Minnie Tamlinson
Name: Minnie Tamlinson
[Minnie Tomlinson]
Age in 1910: 22
Birth Year: 1888
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1910: Wilson, Atoka, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Lester Tamlinson
Father’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother’s Birthplace: Arkansas

1900 United States Federal Census about Minnie Smith
Name: Minnie Smith
Age: 12
Birth Date: Apr 1888
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1900: Monroe, Sevier, Arkansas
[Sevier]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Christopher Smith
Father’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother’s name: Bethenia Smith
Mother’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Christopher Smith 35
Bethenia Smith 33
Thomas Smith 14
Mammie Smith 12
Minnie Smith 12
Berrie Smith 8
Bertha Smith 5
Martha Smith 3
Nora Smith 8/12
Ora Smith 9/12
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Monroe, Sevier, Arkansas; Roll: 76; Page: 15B; Enumeration District: 151; FHL microfilm: 1240076.

1920 United States Federal Census about Minnie Tomlinson
Name: Minnie Tomlinson
Age: 31
Birth Year: abt 1889
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1920: Lewis, Atoka, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Lester E Tomlinson
Father’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother’s Birthplace: Georgia
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Lester E Tomlinson 36
Minnie Tomlinson 31
Mattie Tomlinson 14
Ola Tomlinson 12
Jessie Tomlinson 10
Annie M Tomlinson 6
Lester Tomlinson 3
[3 4/12]
Calvin Tomlinson 1
[1 9/12]
Calie Tomlinson 1
[1 9/12]
Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Lewis, Atoka, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1452; Page: 11A; Enumeration District: 9; Image: 658.

1930 United States Federal Census about Minnie Tomlinson
Name: Minnie Tomlinson
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1889
Birthplace: Arkansas
Race: White
Home in 1930: Lewis, Atoka, Oklahoma
View Map
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse’s Name: Lester Tomlinson
Father’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Lester Tomlinson 46
Minnie Tomlinson 41
Jesse Tomlinson 20
Anna M Tomlinson 16
Lester Tomlinson 14
Calvin Tomlinson 12
Callie Tomlinson 12
Carl E Tomlinson 4
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Lewis, Atoka, Oklahoma; Roll: 1892; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 10; Image: 1196.0; FHL microfilm: 2341626.

Social Security Death Index about Minnie Tomlinson
Name: Minnie Tomlinson
SSN: 442-52-8645
Last Residence: 74525 Atoka, Atoka, Oklahoma, United States of America
Born: 11 Apr 1888
Died: May 1977
State (Year) SSN issued: Oklahoma (1965)

1870 United States Federal Census about Bethena Blythe
Name: Bethena Blythe
Age in 1870: 4
Birth Year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1870: Marble, Madison, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Female
Post Office: Kingston
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
John Blythe 48
Jane Blythe 45
Sarah Blythe 25
William Blythe 21
Josephus Blythe 15
George Blythe 13
James Blythe 11
Rebecca Blythe 9
Nancy Blythe 7
Bethena Blythe 4
Noah Blythe 1

Arkansas, County Marriages Index, 1837-1957 about Bethina Blythe
Name: Bethina Blythe
Age: 17
Birth Year: abt 1866
Residence: Altus, Franklin, Arkansas
Spouse’s Name: C C Smith
Spouse’s Age: 18
Spouse’s Residence: Altus, Franklin, Arkansas
Marriage Date: 13 Dec 1883
Marriage License Date: 11 Dec 1883
Marriage County: Franklin
Event Type: Marriage
FHL Film Number: 1034244

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Lester E Tomlinson
Name: Lester E Tomlinson
County: Atoka
State: Oklahoma
Birth Date: 6 Jan 1884
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1851605
DraftBoard: 0

i do not see a record for minnie smith on the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma.

you should look at tribes that are near the location of your family and ask them about whether the family applied for enrollment.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com. fold3.com is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet, however check with accessgenealogy’s database to see if your relative’s dawes packet is exists or is available at fold3.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/dawes.php?s_last=green&s_first=mart&s_middle=&s_tribe=
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on rootsweb.com or ancestry.com.
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try findagrave.com or interment.net. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. ancestry.com and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA (http://www.archives.gov) are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Five_civilized_tribes_in_Oklahoma.html?id=chATAAAAYAAJ
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.
http://www.archives.gov/southwest/finding-aids/native-american-microfilm.html

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA http://www.archives.gov for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23 RECORDS OF THE COMMISSIONER TO THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES 1852-1919
75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/075.html
(Record Group 75)
1793-1989

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
some obituaries:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/obituaries/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

about blood quantum laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_quantum_laws
calculations about blood quantum:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wishawa4/Menominee%20Indians/quantum.htm

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
marriage records
http://www.okhistory.org/research/library/marriage.html
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chocmarriageindex.htm

other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.

you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/ppcs/ppcs.html
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Ashfrye34 Ashfrye34

posted on February 19

Hi Suzanne,

Thank you for the information. I found Minnie on the Oklahoma Osage roll, 1921 Commission #1885 Roll# 2012. I got a alert on my ancertry.com account.

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posted on February 19

Our office searches for original Choctaw enrollees on The Final Dawes Commission Roll Book. To be on the Dawes Roll, a person must have been living in Indian Territory (pre-Oklahoma) with the tribe between 1898-1906. A person did not have to be Choctaw to be living in the Choctaw Nation. It seems Minnie Smith was still living in Arkansas in 1900 so that is the reason she would not be on the Dawes Roll. The Minnie Smith on the Osage Roll died in 1921 so she could not have been your Minnie Smith (besides her name would have been Tomlinson by then). I’m sorry but since she is not on the Dawes Roll, I would not have any more information on her.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on February 19

you can look at arkansas tribes. there might be a record of family with them. look at the 1900 census for family members, location and date, then look at the tribes that are located nearby.

http://500nations.com/Arkansas_Tribes.asp
http://www.arkansaspreservation.com/archaeology-section106/tribes/
http://www.aaanativearts.com/tribes-by-states/arkansas_indians.htm

minnie smith is a common name. but if you look at your family in 1900, you will have more family members that help you find whether any of your family applied for enrollment in a tribe.