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Tipton, Johnson, Pence

Matt Blaisdell Matt Blaisdell

posted on August 22, 2010 and updated on August 22, 2010

I am trying to find information on:

Mary “Mollie” Tipton DOB Oct 1853? Alabama

John Tipton DOB 1833 Madison Alabama ?

Mary “Polly” Pence DOB ?

William N Johnson DOB 1855 Georgia

Mary “Mollie” Tipton and Willaim N Johnson married and records show them in Township #2 in Bryan County OK 1910.

My records show they had 7 kids. One of those was WIllie B Johnson DOB Aug 22 1888 Texas. Willie B Johnson was my Great Great Grandmother. And supposed to be full blooded Choctaw.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 22, 2010

the trail of tears was in the late 1830’s from the southeast reservations. you might look at the MOWA tribe, as they came from AL. the trail of tears didn’t go through TX but many choctaws and other natives did go through/go to TX.

john tipton b. 1833 AL m. mary/mollie b. 1853 AL
mary/pollie tipton m. william n. johnson b. 1855 GA
willie b. johnson b. 8/22/1888 TX

MOWA tribe
Mr. Wilford “Longhair” Taylor Tribal Chief Mowa Band of Choctaw Indians 1080 W. Red Fox Road Mt. Vernon, AL 36560. Tel: (251) 829-5500

mississippi choctaw tribe

Name Age
Wm N Johnson 55
Mollie Johnson 57
Annie Johnson 32
Sam K Johnson 23
Willie B Johnson 21

Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Township 2, Bryan, Oklahoma; Roll T624_1243; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 17; Image: 1110.

annie and same b. AL, willie b. TX, so there’s your migration.
they rent a farm so they were not alloted land.

william b. GA, father b. GA mother b. TN
molllie b. AL, parents b. AL

this is difficult, as the names are very common. i would suggest that you get a copy of the social security application of one of the children and see what they say for parent information, birthdate and birth place. then you can write for a copy of their delayed birth certificate filed to show proof of age.

since you didn’t give spouse information, i can’t check any further with the children.

suddenly is acting up so i can’t tell you any more right now.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto