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Adopted Folsom looking for family in Oklahoma. I am wanting my CDIB card

Sage Slover/Folsom Sage Slover/Folsom

posted on June 29, 2010 and updated on June 24

Halito,
My name is Sage I was born a Folsom. I was adopted and know little about my Choctaw family. I was told when very young by my father to never forget I am Choctaw. My father’s name is Alexander Folsom Jr. he is deceased.His father was Alexander Sr. and my great grandfather’s name was Samuel who had a wife named May. I know my father said we had land enough in Oklahoma for as many horses as I wanted. I last saw him 36 years ago while waiting for a foster home. I know I had an uncle named Timothy and an aunt named Ramona Folsom. I know my grandfather died in Oklahoma about 12 years ago.

LeFlore/Gardner Descendant Debi LeFlore/Gardner Descendant Debi

posted on July 3, 2010

www.folsomfamily.org/harry/choctaw%20folsoms/

You need to go to this website.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on July 8, 2010

samuel folsom m. may ?>alexander folsom sr. d.~1998 OK >alexander folsom jr. b.~1940 m. nancy
first, you should get over the adoption hump. do you have paperwork saying you are your father’s child? you might need to contact the adoption coordinator of the state where the adoption took place.

you start with what you know, gather paperwork, then you can go backward in time. birth certificates and marriage license are primary documents. death certificates, obituaries, social security applications (for people who passed away after 1/1/1937) can often point you in the right direction.

i agree that you should contact the genealogist for the folsom family, on that website link given by debi.

this might be your father:

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Alexander Folsom
Name: Alexander Folsom
Social Security #: 560504187
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 20 Sep 1939
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Death Date: 28 Mar 1993
Death Place: Modoc
Mother’s Maiden Name: Boyd

bear in mind that the informant might not have known some information about previous events, like birth or parents.

california vital records:
http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic/birthdeathmar/pages/default.aspx

oklahoma vital records
http://www.ok.gov/health/Birth_and_Death_Certificates/

this will give you a start.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you

have a common surname, you need to give more information rather thann less. if you post

about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate

which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times

natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were

philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they

were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of

tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time

period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there

permanently.

if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy

advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Sage Slover/Folsom Sage Slover/Folsom

posted on July 28, 2010

Halito,
Thanks to both of my respondants. Indeed my father died up at Alturas or Pit River which I believe is in Modoc county Ca. I also vaugely remember my grandmother’s maiden name being Boyd from an old baby book I no longer have access to; she may still be living and in Oklahoma for sure. It is overwhelming to look at the number of Folsom family sites, but I will try the one suggested and ask for help. There are two Alexander Folsoms on the final Dawes. But again thank you as I am now serious about all of this, I want to be legally counted as a tribal member and Choctaw by blood. I do believe I can get my original birth certificate opened in my birth county but if the Nation wants originals and not copies I may not be able to provide that if it is something my mother acquired. Although my original birth cert. does say Alexander Folsom Jr. is my father my mother refused to put anything to do with my Choctaw ethnicity on it but that shouldn’t matter. So I will start gathering info and seek more help from those who know what they are doing.
Sage ohoyoluksi@comcast.net

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on July 28, 2010

don’t worry about the ethnicity issue. the name of the father and any details would be better.
you should contact the tribe’s advocate for genealogy. they can tell you what kind of paperwork you need.

the dawes roll is a list of original enrollees 1896-1906. if your ancestor was not alive at that time, they might not have been on the dawes roll.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resourcce list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Jonathan S. Chilton Jonathan S. Chilton

posted on July 28, 2010

Try this website for searching the Dawes Commission Enrollment. Be sure to read the instructions at the bottom of the page. Good Luck!

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/dawesresults.php?cardnum=CC%23%201399%20Page%2024

april dawn april dawn

posted on December 12, 2014

hello Sage, it is true my Dad alex folsom jr. died up in modoc county. i thought that he had acouple of kids previously but he didnt tak much about them nor his wife or wifes. i have been searching myself through the years to try and find any of his children but always ended up stuck. You probably have all the information by now but i would like to talk to you. 530-925-3143. God be with you my friend. peace

Shelby Summers Shelby Summers

posted on December 18, 2014

Hi Sage, Have you found or do you know whether you are of the Folsom descended from Rev. Willis Franklin Folsom? If you are, e-mail me :) we would be cousins. I have tons of photos I can share from the Folsom tree. My e-mail: ssjazmine@yahoo.com or shelby.summers@yahoo.com – best findings to you <3

Shelby Summers Shelby Summers

posted on December 18, 2014

I attached a photo of Samuel Folsom, who as uncle to Rev. Willis Folsom.

attached:

Sage Slover/Folsom Sage Slover/Folsom

posted on June 22 and updated on June 23

Halito April,
I am indeed Alex Folsom Jr.‘s first born daughter 1959, he married my mom when she was 15 in Reno(1958). Their wedding photos are in my living room. He liked the name Dawn, it is also my middle name he chose.I was told he wanted to give me a Choctaw name and my mother would not allow it (she’s passed on )
I located a couple of cousins fairly recently and was hit with so much nasty, unexpected resentment from one of them, due to my mother’s behavior 57 years ago, (which by the way I had nothing to do with) it has been painful.

But 57 year old resentments absolutely cannot change who I am. My father made sure I knew he was my Dad, and he certainly knew about my Mother’s behavior. My father also knew how to count on his fingers and toes just like the rest of em. Resentments are loathsome things.

April you are my biological half sister. I spoke with our father a few times before he died up at Pit River. He knew his grandson, my son, would be proudly carrying the Folsom name.

I am Alex Folsom’s daughter and he made sure I knew that. I am Choctaw and I now understand why he made me swear/promise to never forget it. He said there would be people who tried to tell me I was not; what he didn’t tell me was that it would be a couple of his family members doing it.

He made me promise this in front of our Grandfather, whom Alex used to take me to visit; but only when Grandmother and his sister were not around.I understand now why we had to run out of the house before his mother came home.I never understood as a little girl why the women of the family didn’t want to see me. But I know now. Drama… Pretty pathetic thing to do to a little girl.
I am sorry to be so curt but I really was happy to find my cousins, until one of them tried to tell me she knew more about my biology than me or my father did.

I am sure those holding ancient resentments were unaware that Alex took me to visit his father when nobody else was around. He came to visit me and took me places when I was very young. He got thrown out of a detention facility for demanding to “see his daughter” when I was waiting for a foster home ( my name had been changed due to adoption at that point); but he came back the next day and tried to get me to move back to Oklahoma with him. He had no parental rights at that time anymore either.

So I am not sure what your true intentions are. It might be nice to correspond. email me if you see this: ohoyoluksi@gmail.com