connie woods
posted on December 15, 2011
i want to lern of my great grandmothers childhood and who her parents where
posted on December 15, 2011
i want to lern of my great grandmothers childhood and who her parents where
posted on December 15, 2011
i don’t know who your great grandmother was. there is no name, date, location, children or spouse in your post.
this post will give you information about genealogy and give you resources.
genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common
surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to
include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.
start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth
certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your
grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on
file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might
have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are
helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or
marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start
with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful.
census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census
records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be
public information in 2012.
social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for
enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they
didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or
benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.
the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly,
they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.
history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.
helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html
2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see
other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are
especially useful.
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other
oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.
if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available
online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov
http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary
loan/public library.
the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for
oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have
microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.
freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw
Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When
US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any
benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents
(application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.
mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/
jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/
MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail:
chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com
other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html
chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm
chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm
texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm
oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html
some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they
will improve some of these categories.
types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can
get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.
Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.
always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find
a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births,
marriages in particular.
check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.
if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not
taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.
this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.
do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to
be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the
family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.
there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your
family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe
located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.
if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called
choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a
database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there
are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA
http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.
the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal
enrollment.
this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm
and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.
good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html
if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching
google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal
recognized tribe.
this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html
these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.
i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request
the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.
i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.
suzanne hamlet shatto
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