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ALICE AND LIZZIE KINCADE -SISTERS

DARLENE RIOS DARLENE RIOS

posted on August 16, 2011 and updated on August 16, 2011

LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER – ALICE KINCADE MARRIED HOWARD LEWIS AND HER SISTER LIZZIE KINCADE INF. I HAVE PROBABLY ENROLLED AS ORPHANS AT WHEELOCK ACD.
I AM INTERESTED IN GETTING IN TOUCH WITH FAMILY.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 16, 2011

you have not given any dates, children in your post. genealogists use names, locations, children and spouse to match records.

1900 United States Federal Census about Alice Kincade
Name: Alice Kincade
[Winlock]
Home in 1900: Township 5 and 6, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Age: 17
Birthplace: Indian Territory, Oklahoma
Race: Indian (Native American)
Gender: Female
Relationship to head-of-house: Daughter
Father’s name: Brazelia Winlock
Mother’s name: Leon Winlock
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Brazelia Winlock 66
Leon Winlock 43
Azel Winlock 12
Alice Kincade 17
Jissie Kincade 15
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 5 and 6, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: T623_1851; Enumeration District: 90.

1910 United States Federal Census about Allice J Lewis
Name: Allice J Lewis
Age in 1910: 26
Estimated Birth Year: 1884
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father’s Birth Place: Oklahoma
Mother’s Birth Place: Oklahoma
Spouse’s Name: Howard E Lewis
Home in 1910: Walker, Garvin, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Married
Race: Indian (Native American)
Gender: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Howard E Lewis 39
Allice J Lewis 26
Ethel E Lewis 7
William J Lewis 5
Irene A Lewis 3
Eugene Lewis 1 7/12
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Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Walker, Garvin, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1252; Page: 18A; Enumeration District: 0086; Image: 639; FHL Number: 1375265.

U.S. Native American Enrollment Cards for the Five Civilized Tribes, 1898-1914 about Alice Kincade
Name: Alice Kincade
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1884
Age at Census Enrollment: 18
Enrollment Date: 25 Sep 1902
Tribal Affiliation: Choctaw By Blood
Census Card #: 3001
Dawes’ Roll #: 8798

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Hampton Selina 0 F 3001 P
Choctaw Hampton Simmon 0 M 3001 P
Choctaw Hampton Louisiana 14 F 7/8 3001 NR LEFLORE BB
Choctaw Jones Lena 0 F 3001 P
Choctaw Jones Norris 0 M 3001 P
Choctaw Jones Israel 12 M 3/4 3001 NR LEFLORE BB
Choctaw Kincade Joseph 0 M 3001 P
Choctaw Kincade Mary 0 F 3001 P
Choctaw Kincade Kizzie 13 F 3/4 3001 NR LEFLORE BB
Choctaw Kincade Alice 15 F 3/4 3001 NR LEFLORE BB
Choctaw Sexton Impson 0 M 3001 P
Choctaw Sexton Susan 0 F 3001 P
Choctaw Winlock Amy 0 F 3001 P
Choctaw Winlock Tom 0 M 3001 P
Choctaw Winlock Lena 45 F FULL 3001 NR LEFLORE BB
Choctaw Winlock Brazil 64 M 1/2 3001 NR LEFLORE BB
p=parent
bb=by blood

1920 United States Federal Census about Alice Lewis
Name: Alice Lewis
Home in 1920: Coyle, Murray, Oklahoma
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse’s Name: Howard E Lewis
Father’s Birth Place: Oklahoma
Mother’s Birth Place: Oklahoma
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Howard E Lewis 49
Alice Lewis 35
William J Lewis 15
Eugene A Lewis 13
Alvie E Lewis 11
Crawford H Lewis 8
Mary M Lewis 6
Joseph E Barrack 19
Ethel E Barrack 17
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Coyle, Murray, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1475; Page: 12B; Enumeration District: 87; Image: 615.

Name: Howard E Lewis
Home in 1930: Wister, Le Flore, Oklahoma
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Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse’s Name: Sissie H Lewis
Race: Indian (Native American)
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Howard E Lewis 59
Sissie H Lewis 50
Crawford H Lewis 19
Rudolph Lewis 9
Randolph Lewis 9
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Wister, Le Flore, Oklahoma; Roll: 1911; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 41; Image: 330.0.

i don’t know what “Inf.” means.

this might be howard lewis’ grave on findagrave.com
Birth: unknown
Death: Aug. 25, 1933

Burial:
Maxey Cemetery
Wister
Le Flore County
Oklahoma, USA

there are some other messageboards in this post.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

DARLENE RIOS DARLENE RIOS

posted on August 16, 2011

Thank you, this is my family. I’m hoping to meet family on my great grandmother Alice Lewis (Kincade) side. I have some contact with my grandfather William J. Lewis. family.
Thank you for all your help.
darlene