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Maria Hartman Johnson Maria Hartman Johnson

posted on July 7, 2011 and updated on July 7, 2011

Looking for my husbands family members and genealogy. My husbands name is Bryan James Johnson,his father name is B.J. Johnson (his true name), his grand mothers name is Willie Mae Johnson, French at birth, his father was Stanley Joe Johnson,my husbands great grandmother was Rozella Dickey French. Siblings of Willie Mae were:
Rosa French
Harry French
Oscar French
Daulton French
Willie Mae French
Leona French
(1920 census, Maytoy, Bryan and Oklahoma?
Roll number T62_1424 pg. 17B
Enumeration District 32, Image 779) Have not been able to locate this information personally. This number has not been located by us. We have checked all rolls available

This is all of the information we can locate at this time, is their anyone else looking for this information or have info, please contact us at mariajim1384@yahoo.com, if you can help. Thank you very much.
Thank you so much

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on July 8, 2011

you have cited a 1920 federal census listing. not a native census. you can get access to the census through your local public library. the library probably has a subscription to heritage quest, which you can use from your home, and/or ancestry.com, which you would have to use at the library.

in genealogy, dates, locations, children, spouse are very important.

rozella dickey m. ? french
willie mae french m. b. j. johnson (likely bryan james)

1920 United States Federal Census
about Rosa French
Name: Rosa French
[Rosa Funch]
[User-Submitted-Comment]
Home in 1920: Matoy, Bryan, Oklahoma
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Missouri
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Father’s Birth Place: Missouri
Mother’s Birth Place: Missouri
Marital Status: Widowed
[Widow]
Race: White
Sex: Female
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Rosa French 43
Harry French 19
Oscar William French 12
Daulton French 10
Willie May French 7
Leona French 5
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Matoy, Bryan, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1454; Page: 17B; Enumeration District: 32; Image: 779.
then you look at the census page and see what other information might be on it.
line 56, farm, household 2, family 2
township 10 matoy, enumerated january 2, 1920 by robert gray
rosa french, head, rents, white female, age 43, widow, reads and writes, b. MO, parents b. MO, farmer
harry, son, white male, age 12, single, reads and writes, b. OK, father b. MO
oscar william, son, white male, age 12, single, attends school, reads and writes, b. OK
daulton, son, white male, age 10, single, attends school, reads and writes, b. OK
willie may, daughter, white female, age 7, sihngle, attends school, b. OK
leona, daughter, white female, age 5, single, b. OK

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Harry McKinley French
Name: Harry McKinley French
Social Security #: 448012951
Sex: Male
Birth Date: 6 Nov 1901
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Death Date: 13 Jun 1989
Death Place: Butte
Mother’s Maiden Name: Dickey

1910 United States Federal Census
about Harry M French
Name: Harry M French
Age in 1910: 10
Estimated Birth Year: 1900
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s name: Joseph F French
Father’s Birth Place: Missouri
Mother’s name: Ross French
Mother’s Birth Place: Missouri
Home in 1910: Stonewall, Pontotoc, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph F French 55
Ross French 33
James F French 11
Harry M French 10
Oscar French 5
Dalton G French 10/12
0
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Stonewall, Pontotoc, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1270; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 0262; Image: 1079; FHL Number: 1375283.

joseph’s first name might be jasper.

1900 United States Federal Census
about Jasper French
Name: Jasper French
Home in 1900: Township 6, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Age: 45
Birthplace: Missouri
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouse’s Name: Rozella French
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jasper French 45
Rozella French 22
James French 1
Etta French 13
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 6, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: T623_1852; Enumeration District: 116.
this census page is not very readable on ancestry. you might try to find it on heritage quest because there might be a better representation there.
they have been married two years. they are not on the indian population schedule.
etta might be jasper’s daughter.

this might be helpful to you, a french family association.
www.frenchfamilyassoc.com

i do not see any in the family listed on the dawes roll 1896-1906. the dawes roll lists applicants to the five major tribes in indian territory. indian territory became the state of oklahoma in 1907.

however there are 63 tribes in oklahoma. and there are other tribes in other states. location is very important. you will want to try to find a marriage license for rozella dickey and joseph/jasper french.

since both came from missouri, you might want to look at the missouri state archives. they have many records online and they also have other records that are not online.

1870 United States Federal Census
about Jasper French
Name: Jasper French
Birth Year: abt 1854
Age in 1870: 16
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1870: Lost Creek, Newton, Missouri
Race: White
Gender: Male
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel French 46
Jane French 22
Jasper French 16
Samantha A French 14
Nancy J French 11
Maggaret H French 6/12
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Lost Creek, Newton, Missouri; Roll: M593_795; Page: 399B; Image: 144; Family History Library Film: 552294.

do you have an obituary? you should ask your local public library for this, if you have a date of death.

if anyone passed away after 1/1/1937, you can ask for a copy of the social security application, which would list dates, locations, parents.

collect your own documents or get copies from others. but be careful. i noticed that some people who have tried to do genealogical searches have attached records to these names that have nothing to do with the people.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto