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Suzanne  Goodwin Suzanne Goodwin

posted on April 6, 2011

My grandfather was George (Washington) Long we think he is Choctaw or Cherokee , We think he has a Choctaw Roll # 1418,
Our great grandmother Sarah Angeline Townsend she worked with the natives alot and we were told she helped signed one of the 1st peace treaties.

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suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on April 6, 2011

these are common names. there are no dates, locations, children or spouse in your post. i don’t know if sarah angeline townsend is related to george washington long.

i am not sure what this 1418 # means.
there are many george longs and washington longs on the dawes roll.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php?ccsForm=dawes

if you find a record you want to see, click in the # in the card column to see the family group. this might answer your question.

someone posted this:
Teri
Query: Family stories exist that a Sarah Angelina Townsend , born about 1861 or 1862, who married George Washington Long, born 1853, ‘signed’ Cherokee Indian treaties of some kind. It is said, she did a lot of work for the Cherokee Indians. I assume this would have taken place in Texas, since she was born in Texas and lived her life in Texas. I’m not convinced these family rumors are true. Could you help me find out if she had anything to do with the Cherokee Indians? Her father was Alex Bryant Townsend, b, about 1825 in Alabama. Her mother was Elvira Brymer, b, 1831 in Tennessee. I haven’t been able to find a connection between the Cherokee and Sarah.
Posted: March 2008
http://www.allthingscherokee.com/queries_board_08_03.html

this post indicates that sarah angeline townsend lived in texas. she probably would not have applied for enrollment in oklahoma. natives had to be living in oklahoma by 1900.

texas was not on the trail of tears, but there were many unofficial migrations through texas. some we called mississippi choctaw. nonetheless, you should look for a texas tribe, using her geographic location. there are links to texas tribes in this post.

http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

1900 United States Federal Census
about Sarah A Long
Name: Sarah A Long
Home in 1900: Milbourne, McCulloch, Texas
[McCulloch, Texas]
Age: 38
Birth Date: Aug 1861
Birthplace: Texas
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Father’s Birthplace: Mississippi
Mother’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother: number of living children: 8
Mother: How many children: 9
Spouse’s Name: George W Long
Marriage Year: 1877
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 23
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George W Long 46
Sarah A Long 38
Henry Long 14
Clinton Long 13
Iva Long 10
Ollie Long 6
Ruby Long 3
Eda Long 1
Carrie B Long 0
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Milbourne, McCulloch, Texas; Roll: T623_1655; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 108.

1900 United States Federal Census
about George W Long
Name: George W Long
Home in 1900: Milbourne, McCulloch, Texas
[McCulloch, Texas]
Age: 46
Birth Date: Dec 1853
Birthplace: Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouse’s Name: Sarah A Long
Marriage Year: 1877

george could be MOWA or mississippi choctaw. there was a cherokee tribe in the north too.

1920 United States Federal Census
about George W Long
Name: George W Long
[George W Tony]
Home in 1920: Justice Precinct 7, McCulloch, Texas
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse’s Name: Sara Anglene Long
Father’s Birth Place: United States
[United States of America]
Mother’s Birth Place: United States
[United States of America]
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George W Long 66
Sara Anglene Long 56
Jack Long 16
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Justice Precinct 7, McCulloch, Texas; Roll: T625_1830; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 163; Image: 434.

1930 United States Federal Census
about George W Long
Name: George W Long
Home in 1930: Precinct 4, Concho, Texas
View Map
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse’s Name: Sarah Long
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George W Long 69
Sarah Long 67
Jack Long 26
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Precinct 4, Concho, Texas; Roll: 2311; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 6; Image: 543.0.

Dawes Commission Index, 1896
about George Long
Name: George Long
Tribe: Choctaw
Case Number: 1418

there are problems with this. can you explain why sarah angeline townsend would be applying under her maiden name and not her married name? and long is a very common name.

Dawes Commission Index, 1896
about Angeline Townsend
Name: Angeline Townsend
Tribe: Cherokee
Case Number: 2804
i don’t know if this is a roll number. i think not.
Source Information:
Ancestry.com. Dawes Commission Index, 1896 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1997.
Original data: United States, National Archives and Records Administration. Applications From the Bureau of Indian Affairs, Muskogee Area Office, Relating to Enrollment in the Five Civilized Tribes Under the Act of 1896. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992.

cherokee 2804 belongs to a male named john bateman.

this might be an appeal.

http://www.archives.gov fort worth office
this is NARA, national archives and records administration. they might know what this # refers to.

someone has been building a family tree with sarah angeline townsend in it on ancestry. i would suggest that you contact anyone who has posted a family tree to rootsweb worldconnect or ancestry. cousins usually love to hear from other cousins.

Texas Death Index, 1903-2000
about Sarah Angeline Long
Name: Sarah Angeline Long
Death Date: 10 Oct 1953
Death County: Brown
Certificate: 49597
Where to Go From Here:

With the information provided in this index, you may be able to obtain a copy of a death certificate. Because more information is often provided in an original record than in its index, it is important that you obtain a copy of the original record, if possible. For information on how to order a copy of a death certificate, visit the Texas Department of State Health Services website (www.tdh.state.tx.us) or write to:

Texas Department of Health, Bureau of Vital Statistics
P. O. Box 12040
Austin, TX 78711-2040
(512) 458-7111

1910 United States Federal Census
about Sarah A Long
Name: Sarah A Long
Age in 1910: 48
Estimated Birth Year: 1862
Birthplace: Texas
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father’s Birth Place: Tennessee
Mother’s Birth Place: Tennessee
Spouse’s Name: George W Long
Home in 1910: Justice Precinct 7, McCulloch, Texas
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George W Long 55
Sarah A Long 48
Ollie Long 17
Ruby Long 14
Eda Long 11
Vanie Long 10
Jack Long 6
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Justice Precinct 7, McCulloch, Texas; Roll: T624_1574; Page: 6B; Enumeration District: 0191; Image: 959; FHL Number: 1375587.

Texas Death Index, 1903-2000
about George Washington Long
Name: George Washington Long
Death Date: 23 Oct 1940
Death County: Mcculloch
Certificate: 47188

i think some of the records they saved about these people only refer to documents and you have to actually get the documents to make sure they are your relative.

1880 United States Federal Census
about George Long
Name: George Long
Home in 1880: Precinct 8, Bastrop, Texas
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse’s Name: Sarah Long
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Laborer
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

View image
Household Members:
Name Age
George Long 23
Sarah Long 20
Edney Long 2
Uler L. Long 4m
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Precinct 8, Bastrop, Texas; Roll: 1290; Family History Film: 1255290; Page: 209D; Enumeration District: 16; .

1870 United States Federal Census
about Sarah Townsend
Name: Sarah Townsend
Birth Year: abt 1861
Age in 1870: 9
Birthplace: Texas
Home in 1870: Williamson, Texas
Race: White
Gender: Female
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Townsend 9
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: , Williamson, Texas; Roll: M593_1609; Page: 396A; Image: 141; Family History Library Film: 553108.

it is a possibility he was born into slavery. natives and black people were slaves and he could be a mulatto. nonetheless, you cannot go back further with his record until you get more information about his birth. there are many george longs that were in the census.

the same is true of sarah townsend.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto