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Roslyn Mckinney Roslyn Mckinney

posted on March 23, 2011

My paternal name is Roslyn Mckinney and I am searching for family members related to Cecil Mckinney (my great uncle) and my paternal grandmother Birdie Mckinney who was born in Mississippi then crossed the river to Lousiana around 1914. I am 42 and feel I still have plenty of time to reunite with my lost tribal family.

Roslyn Mckinney

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on March 23, 2011

gl. there are several messageboards in this post, by surname, by tribe, by location.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Roslyn Mckinney Roslyn Mckinney

posted on March 24, 2011

Thank you very much Ms. Suzanne for your assistance. I will use some of these resources for starters.

Roslyn Mckinney

M. McKinney M. McKinney

posted on March 31, 2011 and updated on March 31, 2011

I am an ancestor of Martha “Marthy” McKinney born in Alabama abt. 1853 who resided in Mississippi 1870-1920. Her Husband’s name was Berry McKinney and they had three sons that survived beyond 1910—Henry, “Willie” and “Tom” (Thomas Matthew). I am just beginning research on the McKinney family of Vardaman, Calhoun County, Mississippi and Chickasaw County, Mississippi. I documented McKinney’s in Lodi, Montgomery County, Mississippi that I believe to be Berry’s brothers. I am looking for evidence to back the eyewitness claims of my aunts and cousins (now deceased) that their grandmother was full-blood Native American.

attached:

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on March 31, 2011

this is the choctaw tribe of oklahoma’s website. but i can point you in some directions with resources.
you might want to look at the mississippi choctaw tribe and see if any of your direct ancestors were enrolled in that tribe.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/mississippi/index.htm
http://www.native-languages.org/mississippi.htm
http://www.nanations.com/mschoctaw/
http://mississippi-spi.blogspot.com/2010/08/mississippi-native-american-tribes.html

mississippi archives might help.
http://mdah.state.ms.us/
http://opac2.mdah.state.ms.us/msnews1.php

many of the tribe links can also be used for alabama.

berry mckinney m. martha/marthy b. 1853 AL
henry mckinney, willie/william mckinney, thomas matthew/tom mckinney
no birthdates/birth places for children or parents.

even if you cannot show enrollment, you might be able to show affiliation by a choctaw scrip land grant, given to natives in lieu of tribal enrollment. there might be historical newspaper mentions, such as obituaries. there might be a trading post log or a mention in a local history book. most of those searches can be done through your local public library, interlibrary loan program.

1880 United States Federal Census
about Berry Mckinny
Name: Berry Mckinny
Home in 1880: Chickasaw, Mississippi
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Birthplace: Mississippi
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse’s Name: Marthy Mckinny
Father’s birthplace: Alabama
Mother’s birthplace: Alabama
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Farmer
Marital Status: Married
Race: Black
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Berry Mckinny 44
Marthy Mckinny 36
Henry Mckinny 17
Berry Mckinny 15
Mousouri Mckinny 13
Willie Mckinny 10
Rinday Mckinny 8
Louella Mckinney 4
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: , Chickasaw, Mississippi; Roll: 643; Family History Film: 1254643; Page: 376A; Enumeration District: 36; .

1870 United States Federal Census
about Berry Mckinsey
Name: Berry Mckinsey
[Berry McKinney]
[Berry McKinney]
Birth Year: abt 1835
Age in 1870: 35
Birthplace: Mississippi
Home in 1870: Township 14 Range 1 East, Calhoun, Mississippi
Race: Black
Gender: Male
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Berry Mckinsey 35
Martha Mckinsey 27
Henry Mckinsey 9
Berry Mckinsey 8
Missouri Mckinsey 3
William Mckinsey 1
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Township 14 Range 1 East, Calhoun, Mississippi; Roll: M593_722; Page: 377A; Image: 761; Family History Library Film: 552221.

it appears to me that martha was likely b. ~1843 MS.

this might be them
1900 United States Federal Census
about Benj Mckinny
Name: Benj Mckinny
[Berry McKinney]
[Berry Mckinny]
Home in 1900: Beat 5, Calhoun, Mississippi
[Calhoun, Mississippi]
Age: 65
Birth Date: Jan 1835
Birthplace: Mississippi
Race: Black
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father’s Birthplace: Mississippi
Mother’s Birthplace: Mississippi
Spouse’s Name: Martha Mckinny
Marriage Year: 1855
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 45
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Benj Mckinny 65
Martha Mckinny 55
Thomas Mckinny 19
Susan Mckinny 13
Banie Mckinny 12
Annie Mckinny 10
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Beat 5, Calhoun, Mississippi; Roll: T623_802; Page: 15B; Enumeration District: 18.

1910 United States Federal Census
about Martha Mckenney
Name: Martha Mckenney
[Martha Mckinney]
Age in 1910: 60
Estimated Birth Year: 1850
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of House: Mother
Mother’s Birth Place: Alabama
Home in 1910: Beat 5, Calhoun, Mississippi
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: Black
Gender: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas M Mckenney 29
27
Lizzie Mckenney 26
Caud Mckenney 7
May B Mckenney 5
Virgio Mckenney 3
Ethel Mckenney 6/12
0
Martha Mckenney 60
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Beat 5, Calhoun, Mississippi; Roll: T624_734; Page: 27A; Enumeration District: 0025; Image: 362; FHL Number: 1374747.

there are a few people who are researching this line.

i couldn’t find records before 1870 on this family. they might have come from families that were slaves, i don’t know. natives and black people were slaves. but if there aren’t many good records, this is a problem.

NARA, national archives and records administration, has the native records kept by the war department 1800-1880, but you will find these also fairly difficult in the early 1800’s.
http://www.archives.gov morrow, GA would be the southeast native repository, although most of the NARA offices around the country have microfilms of some of the records.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto