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Melissa Melissa

posted on January 29, 2011

My name is Melissa (Ater) Jackson-Kuenzi I’m searching for information about the Hayes family.I have been searching for quite some time now.I just found out that my great-grand parents are Robert and Eunice or Evnice Hayes. I did find my great-grand father on record.But I really don’t know anything about my fathers side.
What I do know is Robert and Eunice Hayes had children and one is my grandma Bucella Ezelle Hayes (Ater).Then she married Samuel Ater,my grandpa.Then they had 3 children, Sue , Janice and Steven(my father).I really don’t know any thing other than that. I don’t know any birth dates for my great-grand parents or where they were born, except they are from Oklahoma,then moved over to California.
I don’t know any of my relatives from the Hayes side to ask them,I know that both of my great-grand parents are Choctaw and that Robert was a medicine man(I think).But he was someone who was highly though of.My mom had told me that he might even been a chief, I really can’t say so.
My grand mother lived in Chula Vista ,Ca and she passed away when I was about 5yrs old.So I really didn’t know her,but I’m told I take after her alot..

But looking for any info and any relatives that are out there who could help me

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on January 29, 2011

robert hayes m. eunice hamilton
bucella ezelle hayes b. 11/22/1923 OK? m. samuel ater
sue ater, janice ater, steven ater

i find it easier to start with looking for death records, like obituary, cemetery record, death certificate, and then working backward to the marriage license and birth certificate. if you get stuck, anyone who passed away after 1/1/1937 has a social security application on file and that would give you significant dates and locations, as well as parents’ information.

you start with what you know, get documents, and then go backward in time. so get your documents on your father and that will give you more information about the family.

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Bucella Ezell Ater
Name: Bucella Ezell Ater
[Bucella Ezell Hayes]
Social Security #: 552228592
Sex: Female
Birth Date: 22 Nov 1923
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Death Date: 19 Dec 1986
Death Place: San Diego
Mother’s Maiden Name: Hamilton
Father’s Surname: Hayes

you should get a copy of the death certificate from california and see your local public library about getting an obituary through interlibrary loan.

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/CHS/Pages/default.aspx

1930 United States Federal Census
about Bucella E Hayes
Name: Bucella E Hayes
Home in 1930: San Diego, San Diego, California
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Age:
Estimated birth year: abt 1924
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father’s name: Robert E Hayes
Mother’s name: Eunice E Hayes
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Robert E Hayes 27
Eunice E Hayes 26
Burney F Hayes 9
Estell Hayes 7
Bucella E Hayes 6
Christine B Hayes 4 3/12
Bonnie B Hayes 2 2/12
Albert G Hayes
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: San Diego, San Diego, California; Roll: 193; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 214; Image: 1014.0.
all were b. OK except albert who was b. CA
so that tells you the migration time.
he rents the house for $5/month, is a farm laborer. they live on a farm. the great depression was on during this time.
robert was first married at age 18 and his wife at age 16.

1920 United States Federal Census
about Eunice Hayes
Name: Eunice Hayes
[Eurnice Hayes]
Home in 1920: Heavener, Le Flore, Oklahoma
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1904
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse’s name: Robert Hayes
Father’s Birth Place: Oklahoma
Mother’s Birth Place: Oklahoma
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
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Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Hayes 18
Eunice Hayes 16
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Heavener, Le Flore, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1468; Page: 22A; Enumeration District: 103; Image: 262.
robert was b. ~1902 OK, father b. MO, mother b. OK
eunice was b. ~1904 OK parents b. OK
they rent a farm.

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Eunice Hayes
Name: Eunice Hayes
Social Security #: 548304056
Sex: Female
Birth Date: 6 Sep 1903
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Death Date: 19 Sep 1995
Death Place: San Diego

1910 United States Federal Census
about Eunice Hamilton
Name: Eunice Hamilton
Age in 1910: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father’s name: William E Hamilton
Father’s Birth Place: Missouri
Mother’s name: Lou E Hamilton
Mother’s Birth Place: Texas
Home in 1910: Township 5, Bryan, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
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Household Members:
Name Age
William E Hamilton 48
Lou E Hamilton 45
Drwe Hamilton 19
Eunice Hamilton 8
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Township 5, Bryan, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1244; Page: 10B; Enumeration District: 0023; Image: 193; FHL Number: 1375257.
i can’t be sure this is her, but you might find records for this person. there wasn’t another eunice hamilton in OK at the time.

william was a farmer who rented a farm. they were married 26 years before.

i’m finding too many possible robert hayes records. the death certificate and obituary would probably help you there.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto