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Desperately trying to locate info on Theadosha Talley, Choctaw Indain...

Judy Mitchell Judy Mitchell

posted on October 4, 2010 and updated on January 25, 2011

Help…I’ve been unable to get much info on my Choctaw family. My Great, Great Grandmother was a Choctaw (maiden name unknown) and married to an Irishman (our Talley family name was once O’Talley). I’d been told I have some kin in the Appalachians. My grandmother was born in Arkansas and her parents were Jim (James) & Lottey Talley, and my Great, Great Grandmother was Theodosia (Theodosha) Talley, who was a Choctaw. I was given a tomahawk when younger that was lost later by a relative who was to repair it, then died. My mother recently died and I have no living relative to help get info. If anyone has any knowledge of my Choctaw/Talley family, please let me know! Thank you.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on October 4, 2010

no dates or locations in this post.
talley or o’talley is a married name. so no maiden name.
no children in your post, so i can’t look them up.
theadosha is often spelled variously.
do i did try to look for records but i didn’t find any for this name. and usually that means that i need other details to try to find records because there are spelling differences.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:

MOWA tribe
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail:

texas tribes

oklahoma tribes:

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto