Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma

you might want to look at the early native census records. many used transliterated names because they spoke their native language but it was an oral tradition. the native dictionaries were developed more around 1850.

the war department was in charge of records in the 1800s. they gave rations, took census records.

natives tended to take names of favorite people, places and things. sometimes their favorites changed and they took new names. some natives were slaves and took the names of their masters. some natives intermarried with other races and took their surnames.

so i don’t know how to answer your question.

the repository for the war records is at NARA http://www.archives.gov and accessgenealogy.com has transcribed many of the census records, databases and rolls.

you might want to look at native census records before 1850.

suzanne hamlet shatto

There was a time in our history when people often had 2 names; 1 given at birth and one given maybe even “earned” later on in life.

The Choctaw didn’t have a lot of problems being taken as slaves and certainly not by white men.

Many intermarried with the Irish and Scottish immigrants to the “new world” as can be attested to through the Dawes information packets.

Some of my “late arrival” Choctaw cousins (came in 1901 from MS to Indian Territory) found a surname was useful so they simply took their father’s first name making it their surname.

Others got non-Choctaw names in schools or in churches they joined.

Slavery was an existing institution in the Choctaw and Chickasaw Nations at the time of and prior to the treaties of 1830 and 1837, and the same general rule regarding the status of the offspring of slaves seemed to have prevailed there as in the neighboring States. Out of the social system thus existing various conditions arose resulting in the following classes:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/tribes/slavery_choctaw_chickasaw_nations.htm

and i didn’t say white men took choctaw slaves.
there were natives acquired in war with other tribes, for instance.

By 1860, the Cherokees had 4,600 slaves; the Choctaws, 2,344; the Creeks, 1,532; the Chickasaws, 975; and the Seminoles, 500

You wrote – “some natives were slaves and took the names of their masters.”

I clarified that it wasn’t the Choctaws being taken as slaves by white men.

Are you Choctaw?

you may have “clarified this” but slavery was practiced by the choctaw many years ago.

the records are what they are.

no, i am not choctaw.

No one argued that Choctaws did or did not have slaves. Of course they did. That wasn’t even the topic.

My point was that Choctaws were not enslaved by white men as your post seemed to imply.

I’ve been a student of Choctaw history for many years as well as a genealogist. I’m also a member of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma. There is much false information out there about our people and when I see something that isn’t correct, I will respond.

looking for a John Lewis McCullar, born to George and Sue McCullar, who was Indian. 2 sisters Mae and Sue. He relocated to California and had a child in 1925 and left in 1929, never heard from again.
trying find family and history.